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What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Administraticon — GMT

Just a fun idea that I haven’t seen on the boards. But what would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy? Career paths are not necessary here.

All characteristics I’ve used are judged on the assumption that 30 is average and nothing deviates far from it. The low end is typically 26 and the high end is typically 35. Although some characteristics can go above or below. Reference table 1-2 on page 23 of the core book.

WS 33 (Years of wrestling and martial arts)
BS 31 (Above average training records)
Str 29
T 34
Ag 31
Int 34
Per 30
WP 37 (Yes... Really)
Fel 29

Lean. 6'0", 165 lbs. Age: 27

[u]Basic Skills[/u]:
Awareness
Evaluate
Inquiry
Intimidate
Logic
Scrutiny
Search
Swim

[u]Advanced Skills[/u]:
Speak low Gothic... I guess
Ciphers (US Military and college)
Command
Common Lore
Drive (Ground Vehicle)
Forbidden Lore (Top Secret Clearance)
Literacy
Medicae
Scholastic Lore
Survival
Tech-Use
Trade (Merchant)

[u]Talents[/u]:
Basic Weapon Training (SP) (Military)
Blind Fighting
Die Hard (medical records to prove it)
Hatred (Emo kids... I’m kidding!)
Peer (Military)
Street Fighting
Takedown

~Administraticon

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

peacekeeper_b — GMT

Sergeant Barnhart
WS 31 (Combatives Level 2, Raised on Farm)
BS 37 (Seriously)
Str 25
T 30
Ag 30
Int 35 (College Educated, Always top of my classes and schools)
Per 23 (Ask my girlfriend)
WP 30
Fel 33

Lean. 5'11", 185 lbs. Age: 32 FP: 1 IP: 20 CP:9

[u]Basic Skills[/u]:
Awareness +10
Carouse +20 (7 years of college, 7 years in military)
Evaluate
Inquiry
Logic
Scrutiny

[u]Advanced Skills[/u]:
Speak low Gothic... I guess
Ciphers (US Military Signals and Code)
Command +10
Common Lore
Forbidden Lore (Top Secret Clearance)
Literacy +10
Medicae (er...Physic Aid)
Navigation (Surface)
Scholastic Lore
Survival
Tech-Use
Trade (Photographer)

[u]Talents[/u]:
Peer (Military)
Pistol Weapon Training (SP)
Melee Weapon Training (Primitive)
Light Sleeper
Jaded
Sprint (I run 2 miles in 13 minutes 30 seconds)
Unremarkable

[u]Insanities[/u]:
Phobia: Minor, Spiders (ugly little bastards)
Visions and Voices: Flashbacks (College, man do I miss college).

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Administraticon — GMT

@peacekeeper_b. Good call on the military skills. I didn’t think too much about that. I could add those for mine.

Peer (Military)
Basic Weapon Training (SP)
Ciphers (US Military, and college)
Forbidden Lore (Top Secret Clearance)

I knew someone was going to say Carouse. But +20 for 7 years of college, 7 years in military? That’s hilarious! Good call!

~Administraticon

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

pm102 — GMT

PM102
WS 24
BS 29
Str 25
T 33
Ag 32
Int 37
Per 26
WP 21 (Hehe, have no willpower to speak of...)
Fel 19

Avarage build. 5'8", 11stone 6. Age: 17 FP: 3 (I seem to have 9 lives) IP:20 CP:42

[u]Basic Skills[/u]:

Evaluate
Logic +10
Swim +10

[u]Advanced Skills[/u]:
Speak low Gothic
Common Lore
Literacy +20
Navigation (Surface)
Scholastic Lore
Tech-Use

[u]Talents[/u]:
Basic Weapon Training (SP)
Light Sleeper
Unremarkable
Hatred (People)
Paranoia

[u]Insanities[/u]:
Phobia: Severe, Bees and wasps

[u]Malignancies[/u]
Dark hearted (already included)
Distrustful

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Felix — GMT

Kristoffer
WS 27
BS 31
S 25
T 28
AG 32
INT 36
PER 33
WP 31
FEL 30

Slender build 1.87m 75kg Age 29

[u]Basic Skills:[/u]
Awareness
Logic+10
Scrutiny

[u]Advanced Skills:[/u]
Chem-use
Literacy+10
Medicae
Scholastic Lore (Chymistry)+10
Speak Low Gothic, High Gothic (just 'cause I do speak several languages)
Tech-Use

[u]Talents:[/u]
Basic Weapon Training (SP)
Heavy Weapon Training (SP)
Jaded

..... I guess that's about it..... A little hard on myself?

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Fnord — GMT

WS: 26
BS: 27
S: 26
T: 27
Ag: 27
Int: 37
Wp: 34
Per: 34
Wp: 32
Fel: 30

Skills:
Blather
Common lore (history, politic, religion)
Dísguise
Scholastic lore (physics, chemistry+10, psychology, biology)
Forbidden lore (computers)
Litteracy
Logic
Speak language (high & low gothic)
Survival
Swim
Tech-use

Talents:
Good reputation
Total recall (i often remember pointless and not so pointless things that people have told me years ago. People dont like it when i remind them of what "stupid" things they said/thought 5 years ago...)

Slender build, 1,90m, 69kg, Age: 22

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Ravius — GMT

Joshua

187cm/110kg/26 years (fatboy yay!!!)

WS 27
BS 30
STR 32
TOU 35
AGI 28
INT 35
PER 32
WIL 37
FEL 29

skills:
speak language (low gothic)
speak language (low gothic german sub)
speak language (tribal, czech)
awarness
deceive
search
evaluate

advanced skill:
tech use +10
trade (building construction) +10
scholastic lore (subway) +10
scholastic lore (building construction)
forbidden lore (role playing games)

talents:
PT (SP)
MWT (primitive)
RPG rules fu
RPG char creation combo mastery

traits:
Gamer (-5 fel tests outside of gamer comunity, be it PNP RPG or cogitator games)

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Ravius — GMT

This is nice idea Administraticon. well done!

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Zearoth Kilrathle — GMT

Meh, you guys are not going far enough with those ego-boosting characters sheets, let me show you how it's done.

WS 41 (I've got a sword!)
BS 45 (I once shot a rifle and hit the target, that's 100% accuracy for you!)
Str 43 (I arm-wrestled an Ork... Okay, it was a resin figure, but still)
T 51 (I've spent a whole day without eating, a WHOLE DAY!)
Ag 42 (I type really, really fast)
Int 46 (I can make sense of Windows... Vista!)
Per 53 (I found Waldo/Wally!)
WP 71 (I once asked a demon to possess me while drunk, so I guess that gives me Daemonhost like WP)
Fel 43 (I can't go to parties without men and women hitting on me)

Lean 1.80m; 80 kg; Age: none of your business

Basic Skills:
All of them. I mean, they're basic, so I'm probably really good at 'em.

Advanced Skills:
The cool ones, and if I don't know something I can always use Wikipedia and HowStuffWorks to figure it out.

Talents:
Weapons Master
Hatred (Otakus; Emos; Chavs; Gangstas; Politicians)
Wall of Steel
Step Aside
Peer (God)
Total Recall
Stuff

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Sigismund Cale — GMT

[quote=Zearoth Kilrathle]Meh, you guys are not going far enough with those ego-boosting characters sheets, let me show you how it's done.

WS 41 (I've got a sword!)
BS 45 (I once shot a rifle and hit the target, that's 100% accuracy for you!)
Str 43 (I arm-wrestled an Ork... Okay, it was a resin figure, but still)
T 51 (I've spent a whole day without eating, a WHOLE DAY!)
Ag 42 (I type really, really fast)
Int 46 (I can make sense of Windows... Vista!)
Per 53 (I found Waldo/Wally!)
WP 71 (I once asked a demon to possess me while drunk, so I guess that gives me Daemonhost like WP)
Fel 43 (I can't go to parties without men and women hitting on me)

Lean 1.80m; 80 kg; Age: none of your business

Basic Skills:
All of them. I mean, they're basic, so I'm probably really good at 'em.

Advanced Skills:
The cool ones, and if I don't know something I can always use Wikipedia and HowStuffWorks to figure it out.

Talents:
Weapons Master
Hatred (Otakus; Emos; Chavs; Gangstas; Politicians)
Wall of Steel
Step Aside
Peer (God)
Total Recall
Stuff[/quote]

Winnar

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Ichiban11 — GMT

WS 30 (Some Martial Arts)
BS 29 (Up to 25 yds pretty good beyond that not so much)
Str 29
T 30
Ag 31
Int 35
Per 25 (I'm blind as a bat)
WP 30
Fel 27 (not so good with new people)

[u]Basic Skills:[/u]

Swim
Logic +10
Silent Move
Climb

[u]Advanced Skills: [/u]

Speak Low Gothic
Literacy
Speak 3 other Languages (one at Skilled and the other two at basic.)
Chem-Use
Drive (Ground)
Forbidden Lore (Top Secret)
Medicae (at Basic)
Scholastic Lore (College)
Ciphers (US Navy)
Secret Tongue (Navy Slang)
Tech-Use +10
Trade Merchant and Technomat

[u]Talents:[/u]

Basic Weapon (SP)
Pistol Weapon (SP)
Melee Weapon (Primitive)
Street Fighting
Disarm
Take Down
Thrown Weapon (primitive)
Peer (Military)

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Mark It Zero — GMT

I just made myself as a Rank 1 character. I figure it may be fun to play this character if I ever get a chance to sit on the other side of the screen.

ZERO
[b]Career Path[/b] - Imperial Psyker
[b]Sanctioning Brand[/b] - Irradience
[b]Home World[/b] - Void Born, War Ship (I was a military brat so I moved a lot.)
Divination - "If a job is worth doing, it's worth dying for."
Build - 1.82m, 104kg
Sex - Male
Age - 27

WS - 28
BS - 26
ST - 23
T - 24
AG - 25
Int - 34
Per - 32
WP - 43
Fel - 40

[b]Skills[/b]
Common Lore (Imperium)
Drive (Ground Vehicle)
Invocation
Literacy
Psyniscience
Speak Language (Low Gothic)
Trade (Merchant)
Trade (Soothsayer)

[b]Talents[/b]
Frenzy
Meditation
Melee Weapon Training (Primitive)
Pistol Weapon Training (SP)
Pistol Weapon Training (Las)
Psy Rating 1

[b]Psy Powers[/b]
Forget Me
Precognition
Wall Walk

[b]Equipment[/b]
Sword Cane, Compact Stub Revolver, Psykana Mercy Blade, Dice, Tattered Clothing

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

pm102 — GMT

It's strange the proportion of people who are military related here...

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Braddoc — GMT

Yeah noticed that too..guess getting drunk and ending in the cooler is not the #1 hobby nowadays..

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Luthor Harkon — GMT

Career: Adept
Home World: Hive World (Hive Class: Specialist)
Divination: "The only true fear is of dying with your duty not done."

Build: 1.94m - 89kg
Age: 30

WS - 28 (never trained)
BS - 29 (good in ball sports, but never shot a weapon...)
S - 33 (reular training and good physique)
T- 30 (seldom sick, but bad endurance and not really tough either...)
Ag - 26 (two left hands)
Int - 38 (PhD)
Per - 31 (good vision, modest heraring)
WP - 32 (not sure though...)
Fel - 34 (somehow rather handsome)

Skills:
Drive (Ground Vehicle)
Forbidden Lore (Black Library)
Literacy
Logic
Medicae
Scholastic Lore (Chymistry)
Scrutiny
Swim

Talents:
Light Sleeper

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Nullius — GMT

[quote]It's strange the proportion of people who are military related here...
[/quote]

Something about 40k Appeals to Soldiers and Marines. There are at least four marines in my company who are into 40k. They're not exactly classic gamers, either. Its endlessly surprising how many marines I meet who are obsessed with 40k. Why? I don't yet understand.

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

pm102 — GMT

Hmmm, I may have to look into this further...

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Administraticon — GMT

I’m prior service Air Force. The number one reason I got back into 40k (after about 10 years) was that guys in the barracks were playing. It relieved some of the stigma of “tabletop gamers = dorks”.

It’s rare to find a good gaming group. But there are some out there. The best groups I've seen typically consist of college students/grads and/or military (both active and prior service). IMHO

Just my 2 cents on the subject.

~Administraticon

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Sanguine — GMT

Im wondering if some of you aren't being a bit conservative on your scores?

Im going to try and work out some scores based on what I know I can do and how they compare to the charts in the book.

BS I put mine at least at 50 (I have not yet missed a target up to 500m (rifle), 50m (pistol), with an aimed shot. So +30 for surprised opponent (target or deer I am hunting at the time), + 20 for aim + 50 BS = 100 percent hit rate (with well over 10000 rounds fired down range and a good number of deer in the freezer over the years).

STR and TOU I worked out from table 7-31: carrying, lifting & Pushing. I can olympic lift 100kg (I can deadlift more put went for the harder of the two types of lifting) and carry 45 kg over moderate terrain for 10 hours (the chart doesnt give a specified time so based it the time qualifier from table 7-29: Narrative Movement). So that would give a combined SB and TB of 7, due to accumulated injuries though I would put my TOU in the 20's so that would leave the STR in the 50's. So say 51 STR and 26 TOU.

Looking at table 7-29: Narrative Movement, I can walk for 6km an hour for 10 hours on moderate terrain, so that gives me an AB of 4 so Agility somewhere in the 40's. And on table 7-28 movement (metres/round) I tested that to check and yes I can run 24 metres in 5 seconds, so again an AB of 4.

Anybody else tried to compare what they are able to do with these charts?

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Ravius — GMT

well well i dont think anyone with toughness 26 can carry 45kg load for 10 hours, that calls for like 38+ based on the 31 average human statistic

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Maethalion — GMT

[quote=Sanguine]Im wondering if some of you aren't being a bit conservative on your scores?

Im going to try and work out some scores based on what I know I can do and how they compare to the charts in the book.

BS I put mine at least at 50 (I have not yet missed a target up to 500m (rifle), 50m (pistol), with an aimed shot. So +30 for surprised opponent (target or deer I am hunting at the time), + 20 for aim + 50 BS = 100 percent hit rate (with well over 10000 rounds fired down range and a good number of deer in the freezer over the years).

STR and TOU I worked out from table 7-31: carrying, lifting & Pushing. I can olympic lift 100kg (I can deadlift more put went for the harder of the two types of lifting) and carry 45 kg over moderate terrain for 10 hours (the chart doesnt give a specified time so based it the time qualifier from table 7-29: Narrative Movement). So that would give a combined SB and TB of 7, due to accumulated injuries though I would put my TOU in the 20's so that would leave the STR in the 50's. So say 51 STR and 26 TOU.

Looking at table 7-29: Narrative Movement, I can walk for 6km an hour for 10 hours on moderate terrain, so that gives me an AB of 4 so Agility somewhere in the 40's. And on table 7-28 movement (metres/round) I tested that to check and yes I can run 24 metres in 5 seconds, so again an AB of 4.

Anybody else tried to compare what they are able to do with these charts?[/quote]

Well, on the BS I'd say you're taking time to Aim for a full round(+20), have an accurate weapon (+10), and a red-dot laser sight (+10), and attacking a suprised target (+30), gives you an actual bonus of +70 to your shots. Giving you a base BS of only 30. Considering your experience, I'd still put it in the 40s, though.

For the strength, I'd say 40, and TOU 30. Don't count your injuries against your toughness. generally more injuries means a greater tolerance for pain and understanding of whats going on - organ shock usually does more damage than the injury itself.

And, yeah, AG 4 makes sense too. Granted, a lot of your stats are due to your military training, and not everyone has that. Me, I'd be some fat, corpulescent, heavily-augmented tech-priest (I'm a Biomedical Engineer), so I couldn't really just translate my "stats" over. Needless to say, they'd be in the upper 20s, low 30s at best.

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Sanguine — GMT

Nah, my BS is definately +50 (Marksman score on my last test), give me a red dot and I dont need to take time to aim to hit a statitic (or moderately moving) target, and Ive never shot pistol with anything other than iron sights, nor would I call a glock an accurate weapon :-p .

But I would think most military with a combat mos should have a BS above 40. 30 is human average, 60 is max human potential (top competition level shooting). So I would hope most combat trained soldiers would be above average, otherwise their country doesnt have very good training.

I reckon my TOU has gone down because my body breaks down easier than it used too as a young buck. But my STR is definately in the +50 (My max deadlift is 250kg, my max olympic lift would be better than it is but I dont train it heavy due to various injuries).

Edit: I guess my TOU probably is still in the 30's as everytime I do break myself Im doing something that normal people wouldnt do . When I first looked at table 7-31: carrying, lifting & Pushing I thought that I probably could claim to have a SB + TB of 8, but didnt want anyone to accuse me of power gaming, so went with 7 instead

As the rules of DH give the human genetic potential to be between 20 and 60 I would excpect there to be a bit more spread in abilities in real life, and a few more people with abilities above in the +40's. Seriously if you have a PhD (depending on what it is in) I would think your Int should be above 40.

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Luthor Harkon — GMT

The problem is most stats count for many things. So I gave me Ag 26 even though I am a fast runner and have very fast reaction (was a hockey goaley after all). The problem is my dexterity is really bad, so my fine motor skills are really bad either...

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

peacekeeper_b — GMT

[quote=Sanguine]
STR and TOU I worked out from table 7-31: carrying, lifting & Pushing. I can olympic lift 100kg (I can deadlift more put went for the harder of the two types of lifting) and carry 45 kg over moderate terrain for 10 hours (the chart doesnt give a specified time so based it the time qualifier from table 7-29: Narrative Movement). So that would give a combined SB and TB of 7, due to accumulated injuries though I would put my TOU in the 20's so that would leave the STR in the 50's. So say 51 STR and 26 TOU.

Looking at table 7-29: Narrative Movement, I can walk for 6km an hour for 10 hours on moderate terrain, so that gives me an AB of 4 so Agility somewhere in the 40's. And on table 7-28 movement (metres/round) I tested that to check and yes I can run 24 metres in 5 seconds, so again an AB of 4.

Anybody else tried to compare what they are able to do with these charts?[/quote]

I would say that that is a flaw in the system (looks around for Code 13). Perhaps the charts need modified? Or perhaps we change the way Bonuses work. Instead of using the tens place, round to the nearest tens place. So S 46-55 would be SB 5 and so forth. The issue there is damage is shifted up by 1 point 50% of the time for melee combat, and toughness bonus is shifted up by 1 point 50% of the time against all damage.

But thats the biggest flaw in most RPGs, real world movement, leaping and lifting.

Im going to have to look into this some more.

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peacekeeper_b — GMT

[quote=Administraticon]I’m prior service Air Force. The number one reason I got back into 40k (after about 10 years) was that guys in the barracks were playing. It relieved some of the stigma of “tabletop gamers = dorks”.

It’s rare to find a good gaming group. But there are some out there. The best groups I've seen typically consist of college students/grads and/or military (both active and prior service). IMHO

Just my 2 cents on the subject.

~Administraticon[/quote]

Army here. RPGs are a easy form of entertainment. When I was down range, on a night of no work (we had them occassionally LOL) all you needed were pencils, paper, a single rule book and dice. You can load that stuff easily in your assault bag and take the game where ever you go.

Now being stationed in the middle of nowhere Germany, its either 20 Euro train ride to nearest big city, 100 euro hotel and bunch of euro exploring the city. So many of us only go out once or twice a month ont he other weekends (when we arent training) we watch movies, play video games and recently began a RPG group.

In fact we are playing Dark Heresy here in a few hours.

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Zearoth Kilrathle — GMT

[quote=Sanguine]As the rules of DH give the human genetic potential to be between 20 and 60 I would excpect there to be a bit more spread in abilities in real life, and a few more people with abilities above in the +40's. Seriously if you have a PhD (depending on what it is in) I would think your Int should be above 40.[/quote]

That just means you can have a skill (or more than one, depending on the knowledge area) with +10 or +20, it doesn't mean you're intelligent. I know plenty of idiots with PhDs, take a look around your closest university if you need an exemple or give a critical look through academic articles.

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Luddite — GMT

Ooooh, interesting thread.

I'll put my stats up...

Home world: Agricultural
Career: Adept

WS 22
BS 24
S 36
T 30
Ag 20
Int 47
Per 37
WP 30
Fel 30

Male, Stocky, 6’4”, 350lbs, tan skin, light brown hair, grey eyes, Electoos.
Divination: ‘Truth is subjective’.
Melancholic and sanguine.

Corruption: 34 (soiled)
Malignancy – poor health, Mutation – corpulent

Insanity: 38 (Unsettled)
Compulsions – minor (Alcohol), acute (Food)

Traits:
Hagiography, Liturgical familiarity

Skills:
Awareness
Carouse
Command
Common Lore (Administratum +10)
Deceive +10
Drive (ground vehicle +10)
Evaluate
Forbidden Lore (Archaeotech, Cults, Heresy, Xenos)
Inquiry +10
Literacy +20
Logic
Perform (Orate)
Scholastic Lore (Archaic +20, Astromancy, Beasts +10, Heraldry, Judgement, Legend +10, Philosophy +10, Occult, Tactica Imperialis +10)
Swim
Tech use
Trade (Cook, Artist, Cartographer, Copyist)

Talents:
Air of Authority
Ambidextrous
Decadence
Foresight
Jaded
Orthoproxy
Paranoia
Peer (Academics, Administratum)

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Thresher — GMT

Heh, I'd be either shot or turned into a servitor for being a Heretek or I'd be a mix of Arbites/Tech Priest...

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Bubonicus — GMT

I am statistically and visually indistinguishable from a [b]Nurgling[/b].

WS 20
BS 30
S 21
T 23
Ag 60
In 25
WP 30
Fel 25

Skills: Concealment +10%, Dodge Blow, Perception, Silent Move, Speak Arcane Language (Baltimorean Dialect), Speak Language (Dark Tongue), Swim

Talents: Ambidextrous, Daemonic Aura, Fearless, Night Vision, Unsettling

Special Rules:
- Chaos Mutation: Cloud of Flies
- Instability
- Plague

Armour: None
Armour Points: 0 in all locations
Weapons Claws & Teeth (SB -2)

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Bubonicus — GMT

[quote=Sanguine]Nah, my BS is definately +50 (Marksman score on my last test)
[/quote]

Isn't this superior to the average Space Marine scout or Imperial Stormtrooper?

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Graver — GMT

Her, good question. What would I be if I were a character in Dark heresy?

Career: Servitor
Home World: Mind Wiped.
Divination: A Mind Without Purpose will Wander in Dark Places.

WS - 00 (not needed for simple tasks that trained monkeys are too expensive to preform)
BS - 00 (that part of the brain had to be removed).
S - 10 (strength is unnecessary to it's primary functions).
T - 50 (mostly due to the desk it's attached to)
Ag - 15 (it was never a particularly coordinated unit though advanced cognitors and servo-stabilizers has increased it's hand/eye coordination considerably)
Int - 05 (a few of it's tasks does require rudimentary decision making functionality within clearly defined parameters).
Per - 20 (most of it's interpretive brain had to be removed due to excessive damage and atrophy).
WP - 30 (after conversion and the replacement of most of the dead and damaged portions of the subjects mind, the subject was far less prone to suggestibility and was able to finally stay on task).
Fel- 05 (an interesting tool)

Skills:
Repetitive task a trained monkey could do

Talents:
Doing that thing a trained monkey could do
Machine

The 40k universe is a cold and unforgiving one.. damn it all!

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Chaps — GMT

WS 30
BS 22 (Don't give me a gun... I could manage to shoot myself while aiming the barrel away from me)
Str 32
T 38 (I'm tough, my bones are solid and my skin is hard to slice open)
Ag 30
Int 32
Per 33
WP 30
Fel 34

Age: 25 6'0", 200 lbs. (For now... I seams to be able to loose and gain bettween 5 to 15 pounds in 1 month)

Basic Skills:
Inquiry +10
Scrutiny +20
Swim
Silent Move +10
Deceived +10
Charm

Advanced Skills:
Speak Language: Low Gothic
Speak Language: Local barbaric dialect (French lol)
Ciphers (Body Language)
Common Lore: Politics
Common Lore: Economics
Common Lore: History
Scholastic Lore: Phylosophy
Scholastic Lore: Human Psychology
Drive (Ground Vehicle) +10
Land Navigation +10
Literacy +10
Tech-Use +10
Perform (Oration) +10

Talents:
Die Hard (Fell 10 meters directly on my head, no bruise, heavy head-ache. Multiple witnesses)
Hatred (Emo kids... Not kidding! and kids in generals)
Peer (Humans, but not emos, never really knew why but people says I eradiate an aura of comfort...)
Hardy
Frenzy

Insanity Point: 20
Corruption Point: 15

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Sanguine — GMT

[quote=Bubonicus][quote=Sanguine]Nah, my BS is definately +50 (Marksman score on my last test)
[/quote]

Isn't this superior to the average Space Marine scout or Imperial Stormtrooper?

[/quote]
And it represents a lot of practise and real world experience.

Saying that, in the game I GM with 2 space marines in it they were both forced to max out a either BS or WS and WP. I feel the idea of a SM with a WP in the 30's to be unrealistic. The few SAS soldiers I have had the honour of knowing I would say their WP is in the 50's. You just dont pass SAS selection and training if it isnt. So given how the SMs are supposed to have the hardest/best training and hypnoindoctrination etc, I just cant see them not having a WP in the 50's either.

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pm102 — GMT

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Bubonicus — GMT

[quote=Sanguine][quote=Bubonicus][quote=Sanguine]Nah, my BS is definately +50 (Marksman score on my last test)
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Isn't this superior to the average Space Marine scout or Imperial Stormtrooper?

[/quote]
And it represents a lot of practise and real world experience.

Saying that, in the game I GM with 2 space marines in it they were both forced to max out a either BS or WS and WP. I feel the idea of a SM with a WP in the 30's to be unrealistic. The few SAS soldiers I have had the honour of knowing I would say their WP is in the 50's. You just dont pass SAS selection and training if it isnt. So given how the SMs are supposed to have the hardest/best training and hypnoindoctrination etc, I just cant see them not having a WP in the 50's either. [/quote]

Hmm... even in the case of the SAS, Mossad, etc. I have a hard time imagining them being even vaguely comparable to a Space Marine. I'm not saying there aren't freaky badasses with oodles of specialized training in the real world (which at best would be comparable to Imperial Guard Stormtrooper, I'd guess). A Space Marine isn't that. A Space Marine is Captain America in a neurally-attached suit of futuristic power armor who basically lives in a state of constant war sometimes for as long as 10,000 years. I am confident in saying that such warriors as Space Marines have not existed on this planet.

If someone on this forum can claim Space Marine level combat skills based on the scale provided in the DH rulebook the stat scale needs serious, serious revision.

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Luddite — GMT

[quote=Bubonicus]

If someone on this forum can claim Space Marine level combat skills based on the scale provided in the DH rulebook the stat scale needs serious, serious revision.[/quote]

Indeed.

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Sanguine — GMT

[quote=Luddite][quote=Bubonicus]

If someone on this forum can claim Space Marine level combat skills based on the scale provided in the DH rulebook the stat scale needs serious, serious revision.[/quote]

Indeed. [/quote]

No Im claiming the Space Marines are probably underpowered in the current game mechanics.

I worked out my, and my colleagues, BS based on the Mechanics in the book and the percentages that we hit. Anyway I run the percentages with bonuses or penalties listed in the book, It still works out that my, and my colleagues, BS is +50. So either the game mechanics are broken and do not reflect real life (in which case this thread becomes pointless) or that due to the fear of "power gaming" some DH characters are not being allowed to be as good as they should be.

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Bubonicus — GMT

[quote=Sanguine][quote=Luddite][quote=Bubonicus]

If someone on this forum can claim Space Marine level combat skills based on the scale provided in the DH rulebook the stat scale needs serious, serious revision.[/quote]

Indeed. [/quote]

No Im claiming the Space Marines are probably underpowered in the current game mechanics.

I worked out my, and my colleagues, BS based on the Mechanics in the book and the percentages that we hit. Anyway I run the percentages with bonuses or penalties listed in the book, It still works out that my, and my colleagues, BS is +50. So either the game mechanics are broken and do not reflect real life (in which case this thread becomes pointless) or that due to the fear of "power gaming" some DH characters are not being allowed to be as good as they should be.[/quote]

So we are basically in agreement that something is either overpowered, understatted, or inconsistent?

Are the stats in the RPG similar to the wargame in any way? I mean, is a +50 strength roughly a 5 strength? Is a +50 BS basically a 5 BS? Or is the scale totally different?

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Luddite — GMT

So if a 'normal' human can have +50.....what sort of plusses does a Bloodthirster get?

What about an Alpha+ psyker?

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Sanguine — GMT

[quote=Luddite]So if a 'normal' human can have +50.....what sort of plusses does a Bloodthirster get?

What about an Alpha+ psyker?[/quote]

As the DH rules work a normal Human [b]can[/b] have sats up to 60. 31 is only the average starting stat for a charcter with only 400xp. All my players bought up their primary stats that related to their characters role as quickly as they could, so they had a few stats in the high 40's low 50's (depending on the starting stat), that is in the rules.

For a Bloodthirster? Well for S and T and A, I guess they would have the unnatural trait possibly twice (again this is in the rules), making them stroner and tougher than the PtU Marine (being the only [b]offical[/b] SM we have to look at yet).

The thing is with BS if you can hit 100% of the time (with the bonuses listed in the book) you can hit 100% of the time. It doesnt matter if it is a 9 year old girl, a modern day soldier, a 40k SM or a Bloodthirster of Khorn.

As for TT stats crossing over to DH I understand it is not a direct crossover. In that 5 on TT does not neccesarily = 50 in DH. But others here can explain this better than me I think.

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peacekeeper_b — GMT

Just because you go to a range and hit 100% of your shots on the target doesnt give you a 100 BS. Hell you could get a perfect shot score with a 40% ballistic skill or lower. It just depends on the rolls that day.

Remember, with the erratta you can now get up to +60 to any skill test. That includes BS and WS.

The system works fine. People are just assuming the have better skills then they actually do.

Im dont mean to offend anyone, but seriously thats how I see it.

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Maethalion — GMT

I agree. It is only natural to see yourself better than what you really are.

OTOH, most modern day soldiers (and those who post here who are veterans of some conflicts) are not 400XP characters. It wouldn't surprise me to know that they're 2000-5000XP characters.

Most people nowadays exit basic training far better off than a starting IG. Everyone is generally well fed, and recieves modest medical treatment. Remember, the 40k universe is a smattering of fantastic tech and really shitty tech. A Modern M16 is probably the equivallent of a Good or Excellent Quality Autogun. Most people in the 40K universe probably survived some horrific childhood disease or trauma. I doubt there are even Gyms in this universe, so all that physical prowress is the result of a stressful life.

Also, running numbers like this isn't really how the system was designed. It was designed with a [i]feel[/i] in mind. So ask yourself, when you give yourself a BS of 50, are you [i]more[/i] than human? Cuz that's "Magnificent" even, perhaps, "Heroic." (DH p23).

(Edit = Stupid Quote)

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peacekeeper_b — GMT

[quote=Maethalion]I agree. It is only natural to see yourself better than what you really are.

OTOH, most modern day soldiers (and those who post here who are veterans of some conflicts) are not 400XP characters. It wouldn't surprise me to know that they're 2000-5000XP characters.
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Well I am a Sergeant so I guess that puts me in at anywhere from 2000XP-2999XP.

Im also a Veteran of Iraq/Afghanistan so that puts me at 3000XP-5,999XP.

LOL.

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Sanguine — GMT

[quote=Maethalion]I agree. It is only natural to see yourself better than what you really are.[/quote]

Thats the thing, I think a lot of people dont think they are as good as they should be if put into DH stats.

[quote=peacekeeper_b]Well I am a Sergeant so I guess that puts me in at anywhere from 2000XP-2999XP.

Im also a Veteran of Iraq/Afghanistan so that puts me at 3000XP-5,999XP.

LOL.[/quote]

Vet of UNISOM, Somalia '93, 2 tours of Iraq, one as private security.

The only stats I was commenting on are the ones that you can compare with what can be quantitatively known about yourself to what the book gives.

As for the BS, yes if you've only shot 10 rounds in your entire life with a good rifle, +10, aim +20 at a statitc target +30 (+60 total to hit as max bonus) and your BS is 30, then the odds are you should miss one of the those 10 shots. if you hit all ten then its not a particularily big statistical fluke. IF on the other hand you can look at 1000s of rounds fired in a lot of different training, hunting and combat situations, then compare your known hit rates to the bonus and penality combinations according to the DH rules and still decide that the statistics would indicate that you and your colleagues have +50 BS, then I think you would probably be right.

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Administraticon — GMT

I’m not sure if anyone truly has 50+ Ballistic Skill. Shooting at stationary targets on a shooting range is not an accurate representation of battle field conditions.

I’m not sure what a good hit ratio would be under combat conditions. I think the U.S. SWAT, FBI, etc. might have a good idea. I believe they have more realistic training that simulates live action. (Count the number of shots, the number of hostile targets hit, number of civilians hit, under what time limits etc.) But even they aren’t good combat simulations because I don’t think they simulate being shot at in return (But I might be wrong).

Snipers are a completely different story. It’s nothing like the combat conditions that most infantry face. So with accurate weapons, high-powered scopes, spotters, etc. then they have a much higher hit percentage.

The biggest eye-opener for me was actually when I first played paint-ball. I was 14 I think. In a situation where you’re pinned down and taking cover, it’s hard to hit someone who is doing the same. Even coming straight at them and unloading when they’re in the open is hard. I remember a number of times when I couldn’t hit someone that was 20 feet away! (Granted, paint-ball guns aren’t incredibly accurate, but they are accurate enough). There use to be a great in-door place I went to. It was dimly lit, it vented in smoke from pipes, had all kinds of ramps etc. And the place was huge. It was in a warehouse building.

I’ve also known people that are great marksmen. But when you add in all the random factors like return fire, poor visibility, poor communications, multiple targets, etc. then they probably aren’t likely to hit more than 30% of the time.

FYI: I do not claim to be an expert on the subject. I can only speak from my observations.

P.S. There’s nothing wrong with the humorous posts like Graver being a mindless servitor in 40k!

~Administraticon

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Thresher — GMT

I've been shooting and hunting for 31 years, still be hard pressed to say my Ballistic skill transposed over would be much more than 36-38 under duress. Left to my own devices, good conditions and a decent gun I don't miss much though.

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peacekeeper_b — GMT

I think things like ranges would get test difficulty modifiers such as routine (+20) or Easy (+30) in addition to other modifiers after you become adjusted to just things. Add in teh fact that at ranges, and even when hunting, you arent at risk of getting shot back (usually) and arent racing initiative and what not and I think most combat experienced veterans with loads of experience still fall in the 40s BS.

All you need to know is what the game says the stats are for different "types" of characters. If the game says 60 is the max for human and 50 is average for space marine, do you really think you have space marine accuracy?

Your "equation" to convert real life to the game is whats broken. Sorry. The game may not reflect what you think is your BS realistically, but guess what, its not realistic, its a game.

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Bubonicus — GMT

[quote=Administraticon]
P.S. There’s nothing wrong with the humorous posts like Graver being a mindless servitor in 40k!
[/quote]

I'm glad you didn't mention my Nurgling post as an example of humor. I actually am a swarm of Nurglings hopping around on a keyboard while picking my nose and oozing diseased slime all over the place.

<--- I am this serious.

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Ichiban11 — GMT

I was Navy, active for 8 years and reserve for 2, and 6 of those years was on a ship. Other than watching "training" videos and reading, RPGs were the only way to let your imagination could get a work out.

My stats are kinda low since I'm out of shape and haven't seriously been shooting or done any Martial Arts in about 2 years, but my mind is still strong and if it has moving parts and/or electricity I can figure it out and get it working. It might involve A LOT of banging with hammers, even with electronic stuff, and cursing, but it'll get fixed.

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aethel — GMT

[quote=Bubonicus]I actually am a swarm of Nurglings hopping around on a keyboard while picking my nose and oozing diseased slime all over the place. [/quote]

I knew it!

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Acolyte AES — GMT

Well... I know that this isn't exactly what was meant by this thread but... anyway... Here it is.. the first selfportrait I've completed since my lifedrawing 101/102 class.

[img]http://adam.schumperts.com/images/WH40K/Acolyte%20AESmed.jpg[/img]

[size=9][Picture edited for anatomical correctness. Thanks for the info Robban-O] - AES[/size]

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

evilscary — GMT

Haha, nice one AES!

Dig the armour

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Robban-O — GMT

Awesome stuff AES but I think you made the head a bit to big on this one. "You" almost have the anatomy of a halfling which is sort a shame since the rest of the drawing is great. Unless you actually have the body of a halfling of course . I would shrink the head in Photoshop and fill in the blanks that "stamp" tool. The lines will then look like it is made by pencil and the proportions of the drawing will have better proportions.

I hope you take no offense because that is not my intention.

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ripper.mcguirl — GMT

Oh man, AES, I'm so glad you posted that... That was exactly what I thought when I saw this thread too. I definitely have to do one now!

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Acolyte AES — GMT

[quote=Robban-O]Awesome stuff AES but I think you made the head a bit to big on this one. "You" almost have the anatomy of a halfling which is sort a shame since the rest of the drawing is great. Unless you actually have the body of a halfling of course . I would shrink the head in Photoshop and fill in the blanks that "stamp" tool. The lines will then look like it is made by pencil and the proportions of the drawing will have better proportions.

I hope you take no offense because that is not my intention. [/quote]

No offense taken Robban I think you are correct about the proportions on this one. Thanks for the feedback. I am a kinda short person but definitely not hobbit short. I'll see if I can pull out some photoshop voodoo shrink that head down a bit . Thanks again for the feedback.
[size=9]
[Picture has already been edited - AES][/size]

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ripper.mcguirl — GMT

*DELETED BY INQUISITION FOR BEING LATE AND STUPID*

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mAd eAgle — GMT

As abnormal as I do in this world probably. Unfortunately my awareness negates the chance that one could put ANY sort of LIMIT upon my ability to perform ANY given task.

We are beyond games. We are as GOD!

We create and so would be PURIFIED by flame if our true selves came to the fore.

Have a nice day in the world of make-believe! Are you make believe? So how then is one able to quantify what one is capable of?

Re:What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

Serbitar — GMT

Strange: 95% of the posters here claim to have above average intelligence, while in truth most people on this board arent able to perform basic statistics.

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Cypher — GMT

And as we all know you can't properly reflect intellegence without statistics.

What would you look like as a character in Dark Heresy?

pm102 — GMT

From completing the stats unit of my maths course in a [i]week[/i], finishing the morning of the exam, I have concluded, that stats is one of the easiers branches of maths. I would much rather spend my time learning something more difficult, and I will apply to my working life, such as mechanics, or just some pure maths, because that's just silly

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Sarison — GMT

[quote=Fnord]
Skills:
Blather
Common lore (history, politic, religion)
Dísguise
Scholastic lore (physics, chemistry+10, psychology, biology)
Forbidden lore (computers)
[b]Litteracy[/b]
Logic
Speak language (high & low gothic)
Survival
Swim
Tech-use
[/quote]

Sorry, i couldnt resist

Heres mine:

Sarison
Age 20, 190 cm, 70 kg, Blue Eyes, light brown hair,
WS: 28
BS: 30
S: 30
T: 27
AG: 25
Int: 36
Per: 28 (although this is belied by the above)
WP: 27
Fel: 27

Drive (Ground Vehicle)
Literacy
Logic +20
Swim
Blather
Scholastic Lore (Math)
Common Lore (GE)
Concealment
Decieve
Speak Language (Engligh)
Speak Language (Spanish) as basic skill
Speak Language (hive dialect, California)
Tech Use

Talents:
Basic Wepon (SP)
Master Orator (only applies to students)
Melee Wepaon Training (Primitive)
Pistol Training (SP)
Unremarkable