Hey Ross! Product Suggestions!

Apologies if I repeat anyone else's list, but here's what I want to see:

Xeno Sourcebook (Xenology, but with Stats!) This would include how to use the current careers with Xeno-Races, and add a few new ones appropriate for each race. A few minor races Hrud, Squiddies, a few new ones for shock value. Then you could produce Xeno-Tech - Toys for Aliens of all kinds/Loot for PCs.

Some Xenos are too iconic to just be a few pages in a book, they'd need books of their own. These books needn't be so huge, but one for each race is not only handy, but generates more profit for FFG.

The Great Devourer - Tyranids

Waaagh! The Orks! (I know...)

and so forth for the Table Top races...

Adeptus Astartes - I suppose somebody out there wants to play space marines... You should pay ThePatriot a hefty sum, get the illustrator from Purge on the job and print 5000 hardbacks... That sourcebook is amazing and needs to be codified right now. That might lead to an adventure anthology called... Kill Team - Space Marine Small Unit Tactics scenarios.

Vehicles of Dark Heresy - Expanded Vehicle Rules, Construction of same, and dozens of examples (I should write this myself and submit it.)

Battlefleet Calixis - Despite the name, this would include space action of all sorts, from small PC-crewed ships to the great Cruisers and such. Even though it takes hundreds to crew a ship, how are PCs affected by battles, and how can they affect the outcome of the battle?

I haven't seen Disciples of the Dark Gods yet, but would a book of Alien Creatures be out of consideration? DotDG might make this suggestion superfluous.

Cults and Cabals - Again DotDG may kick this away, but a book of cults might be fun.

Splatbooks on each Career path would be a good idea

Sector Books covering other areas of the Galaxy, perhaps one created from player submissions in a similar vein as the Calixis sector web material.

Citizens of the Imperium - Playing Dark Heresy outside of the Inquisition, but still as normal humans. Pirate Crews, Hive Gangs, Free Traders, Rogue Traders

I'm sure I can think of more, if I'm given time.

The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them. Personally, the further removed I am from the admins of Dark Reign the happier I am. The admins over on Dark Reign are the prime example of hypocrisy. I'm glad that you liked the book.

ThePatriot wrote:The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them. Personally, the further removed I am from the admins of Dark Reign the happier I am. The admins over on Dark Reign are the prime example of hypocrisy. I'm glad that you liked the book.

Corrected, sir...

I really don't think you want to have GW's approach with the codices in here.
I for one would prefer "a littlebit of everything" in a few books, rather than having to wait 3 years until there's actually one being released that is interesting me.

I would like to see some Eldar source material updated for Dark Heresy, or perhaps as part of (as mentioned above) a sourcebook with all manner of alien races (the 'sentient' kind, with detailed archetype/templates and possibilities for character interaction).

Don't hate me cuz I like Eldar!

Agree with Lynata

Have and still am enjoying Dark Heresy and the Handbook immensly

I would like to see something entirley new done by FFG itself - but obviously firmly rooted in the GW background- perhaps a new unheard of type of Xenos or Inquisitorial Ordo or Imperial institution or something like that? But then i like surprises

It seem to me their is enough floating around about existing Xenos and Space marines and such like for player to do there own thing already (as they have) -although some offical rule would be nice.
But most expecially i would like to see further matterial on the way Claxis system is put together and the lesser seen imperial factions work and interact - such as cults, minor adepta, ect.
I personally believe that super-human assault troops ought to be left on the table top and only brought out in DH itself on special occations and so i am less keen to see devolpements here- but i already know a great deal of other people disagree strongly on that particular point.

edit: just fixing painful typos -the shame... the shame

some rules for Titans would be great too.

But then I have been a fan of Dragonmech for a while now... I have actually been twisting a few of the ideas from it into my DH rules it fits rather well actually.

Playable alien races would be great but wouldn't like to see a codex approach to it. something a little bit like the way the IA books are done might work; present a scenario/sector or something and then detail the forces involved. Which would mean there are a nice balance of different races/factions and stuff.

Does anyone know if this Ross bloke actually looks at/takes part in the forums? Most devs seem to be so far up their arses and rather removed from the fans. I hope this guy is different.

frootbat wrote:something a little bit like the way the IA books are done might work; present a scenario/sector or something and then detail the forces involved. Which would mean there are a nice balance of different races/factions and stuff.

Actually, that's a nice idea. This has been done in the DH Core Rulebook already, but I could see a future supplement explaining the Sector and the organizations present there in even more detail.

ThePatriot wrote:The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them. Personally, the further removed I am from the admins of Dark Reign the happier I am. The admins over on Dark Reign are the prime example of hypocrisy. I'm glad that you liked the book.

That's a bit harsh. You aren't a paragon of virtue either.

I like the list already produced. There isn't much else I'd add. The Disciples of the Dark Gods is an interesting book, but not something I personally am that interested in. A couple of xenos source books would be fun. Perhaps an Imperial book looking at the Adeptus of all divisions and how they interact would be something worth seeing.

Hellebore

In my opinion the most useful things in supplements (from a GM's perspective) are Places and People.

So I would love a big fat book all about the Calixis sector and various poeple and groups within it.

ThePatriot wrote:The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them. Personally, the further removed I am from the admins of Dark Reign the happier I am. The admins over on Dark Reign are the prime example of hypocrisy. I'm glad that you liked the book.

Pardon my ignorance, but why are the Dark Reign admins the prime example of hypocrisy?

Neconilis wrote:

ThePatriot wrote:The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them. Personally, the further removed I am from the admins of Dark Reign the happier I am. The admins over on Dark Reign are the prime example of hypocrisy. I'm glad that you liked the book.

Pardon my ignorance, but why are the Dark Reign admins the prime example of hypocrisy?

The policy they had, until one of their admins got caught up in the hurling of insults and violation of the rules, was to punish both parties equally. Funny how none of their admins that personally insulted me on their forum or on other forums were never banned under this policy while I was. I didn't even insult the admin in question and got banned. Hence the reason for their hypocrisy and my statement regarding it.

Hellebore wrote:That's a bit harsh. You aren't a paragon of virtue either.

I like the list already produced. There isn't much else I'd add. The Disciples of the Dark Gods is an interesting book, but not something I personally am that interested in. A couple of xenos source books would be fun. Perhaps an Imperial book looking at the Adeptus of all divisions and how they interact would be something worth seeing.

Hellebore

I never claimed to be anything other then what I am. I do not have two sets of rules like mordheim does when it comes to people who actually contributed to the site and the admins. It's perfectly fine for admins to violate the forum rules while it's not fine for anyone else. I'm not going to name names, but there were several admins on DR that violated the rules in regards to me and got a slap on the back instead of a ban as mandated by the rules.

Whats up, did one of them dare to suggest you might have been wrong or that they dissagreed with your opinion?

ThePatriot wrote:I never claimed to be anything other then what I am. I do not have two sets of rules like mordheim does when it comes to people who actually contributed to the site and the admins. It's perfectly fine for admins to violate the forum rules while it's not fine for anyone else. I'm not going to name names, but there were several admins on DR that violated the rules in regards to me and got a slap on the back instead of a ban as mandated by the rules.

I guess it is a coincidence that both this forum and the Dark Reign forum is more peaceful when you're gone.

How is your website going?

ThePatriot wrote:The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them.

For the record, the above statement is erroneous. The Adeptus Astartes supplement was developed on Dark Reign, with the input of DR members, is hosted on DR's server space, and uses DR's bandwidth. It was also on DR that members made suggestions on how to fix mistakes in the supplement.

I don't post the above statement out of spite. All the contributors on DR had much fun working on the supplement. But it was a Dark Reign production with the help of DR members.

Also, members on Dark Reign are working on a Xenos supplement, a Rogue Trader supplement and thinking of a Battlefleet Calixis supplement (together with members from the Anargo Project). It is summer, so most of the supplements are on a hiatus, but we welcome everybody who wants to contribute or just brainstorm with us.

We really are a nice bunch of people

Back on topic:

Realms of the Imperium describing status in the Imperium, power and responsibility, holdings, governing lands, interacting with the Administratum, perhaps even staging warfare - similar to the Renegade Crowns supplement for WHFRP, or to good old Pendragon RPG.

Don't think it'll ever get done and it wouldn't really suit an inquisitor's retinue, but I'd love to have a book like this for other types of characters, such as nobles, career military, governors or regular (up-and-coming) citizens.

I'd like to see a book that would have playable Novice Inquisitor and Cadet-Commisar career ranks that portray them akin to the Abnett books.

What is the difference between Dark Heresy's and Abnett's version of novice Acolytes and Cadet-Commisars?

Well I would suggest that novice inquisitors are much more party to all manner of secret lore and information, and get a different training set no matter if they are psykers or not.

Also, while I think that the acolytes in DH are probably a better template for an actual Inquisitors background and history I dont think there is anything that would cover a Commisar, certainly official...

Sardauk wrote:Back on topic:

Realms of the Imperium describing status in the Imperium, power and responsibility, holdings, governing lands, interacting with the Administratum, perhaps even staging warfare - similar to the Renegade Crowns supplement for WHFRP, or to good old Pendragon RPG.

Don't think it'll ever get done and it wouldn't really suit an inquisitor's retinue, but I'd love to have a book like this for other types of characters, such as nobles, career military, governors or regular (up-and-coming) citizens.

This would rock. As the book progresses, it scales smaller and smaller.

Chapter 1 Sectors
Chapter 2 Intersteller Objects (Stars, brown dwarfs, ancient Slaan ring-worlds, etc)
Chapter 2 Worlds (all classes with expanded character origin options)
Chapter 3 Cities (from Hives to settlements)
Chapter 4 Citizens and creatures.
Chapter 5 Administratum Concerns
Chapter 6 Trade and commerce
Chapter 7 Defense

The order might need tweaking, but I could see all of this as very cool content.

Great Idea!

We could use some more background fluff and information on playing non-inquisition games.
I'm not that interested in the Space Marines, I think they take the horror out dark heresy...

I think SM are of very limited roleplaying oppertunities, but I would love more detail on worlds of teh Calaxis sector.

Scintilla especially would be worth a supplement all of its own surely?

mordheim wrote:

ThePatriot wrote:I never claimed to be anything other then what I am. I do not have two sets of rules like mordheim does when it comes to people who actually contributed to the site and the admins. It's perfectly fine for admins to violate the forum rules while it's not fine for anyone else. I'm not going to name names, but there were several admins on DR that violated the rules in regards to me and got a slap on the back instead of a ban as mandated by the rules.

I guess it is a coincidence that both this forum and the Dark Reign forum is more peaceful when you're gone.

How is your website going?

How's being a hypocrite going mordheim? I guess your rules only apply to anyone you dislike. As for it being more peaceful, that depends since it was your select group of friends that was the ones breaking your rules by hurling insults at me when discussing books that were being worked on. The only thing I would do was present an idea to the community over on DR then be insulted by your admins when they refused to listen to what I had to say. If I'm writing a book it is my ideas that take precedence not whatever the majority deems to be what they want. I'm the author and I will take suggestions, but in the end it is whatever I write that is what gets put into the book. Also, a good debate helps in fleshing out the ideas that are in the book. That was something you just can't get a grasp on.

mordheim wrote:

ThePatriot wrote:The book I wrote for the Marines is not a Dark Reign publication. It is a separate publication outside of them.

For the record, the above statement is erroneous. The Adeptus Astartes supplement was developed on Dark Reign, with the input of DR members, is hosted on DR's server space, and uses DR's bandwidth. It was also on DR that members made suggestions on how to fix mistakes in the supplement.

I don't post the above statement out of spite. All the contributors on DR had much fun working on the supplement. But it was a Dark Reign production with the help of DR members.

Also, members on Dark Reign are working on a Xenos supplement, a Rogue Trader supplement and thinking of a Battlefleet Calixis supplement (together with members from the Anargo Project). It is summer, so most of the supplements are on a hiatus, but we welcome everybody who wants to contribute or just brainstorm with us.

We really are a nice bunch of people

Actually the statement is right on target. The supplement was developed on BI originally and most of the development of the book occurred there. By the time they closed most of the development of the book was done behind closed doors. As for it being members of DR that worked on the book, DB I brought to DR from BI. The rest of the people I met on FFG's website and worked with them. People on FFG's website have suggested changes which were implemented. There isn't such a thing as a contributer anymore on DR. The role you play is one of publisher since that is what you wanted. You're free to host the books I've written, but they are not DR exclusive which is what my statement entailed. Enjoy the free ride you've gotten off of the people who worked to make DR what it is while you crap all over them. I've seen your duplicity and your lack of responsibility for the actions you've made that were in violation of your own rules. I'm still waiting for that public apology from you and millandson for trashing me publicly on the DR yahoo group, but as I stated you lack the manhood to do it. You're the first one to preen yourself on the accomplishments of others while being the last one to admit you've made a mistake.