Most Desired New Content?

Yay! SteveD for president!!!

Vlkodlak wrote:@Steve D: Can You tell us when the fruits of Your work will see the daylight?

"Great I really like what was done with Realm of the Ice Queen!" *Giggle, giggle*

Um...Is someone poking fun at me or is it my great litterary style!?

@Count Gravenheim: Nope. No fun poking intended. The thing is that I don`t rate "Realm of the Ice Cream" so highly, and although it isn`t a bad supplement It gave ma a good giggle while I was reading. Well I was born and raised in Eastern Europe...

I must admit that it is not the Supplement that leaps to my mind as being a great example to follow.

"I must admit that it is not the Supplement that leaps to my mind as being a great example to follow."

Agreed, as stated before... but if it comes to general layout is as good as any other. Maybe better some would say. But I really hope that Tilea/Estalia will not follow with the idea of trappings description. It absolutely sucks IMHO. Why? For example there`s no space for tasty chunks like in one of the vampire careers: Raging Megalomania IIRC. Sweet. :>

I can't speak for Tilea, but no, we will NOT be using the trapping descriptions for Estalia. Hopefully, history will record that as a momentary mis-step...

Vlkodlak wrote: Well I was born and raised in Eastern Europe...

Don't worry. In this book we'll be getting everything wrong about Western Europe instead.

jadrax wrote:I must admit that it is not the Supplement that leaps to my mind as being a great example to follow.

This time, there WILL be a gazetteer, if only to stop the whining...

SteveD wrote:

jadrax wrote:I must admit that it is not the Supplement that leaps to my mind as being a great example to follow.

This time, there WILL be a gazetteer, if only to stop the whining...

I'm not sure you want to reward that kind of thing ;o)

Although I would love a gazetteer and trade matrix of the Estalian Reaches before my game hits there.

jadrax wrote:

SteveD wrote:

jadrax wrote:I must admit that it is not the Supplement that leaps to my mind as being a great example to follow.

This time, there WILL be a gazetteer, if only to stop the whining...

I'm not sure you want to reward that kind of thing ;o)

The alternative is worse: everyone whining that despite the first whining, they still didn't get their gazetteer, so now they have to whine harder...

SteveD wrote:

jadrax wrote:

SteveD wrote:

jadrax wrote:I must admit that it is not the Supplement that leaps to my mind as being a great example to follow.

This time, there WILL be a gazetteer, if only to stop the whining...

I'm not sure you want to reward that kind of thing ;o)

The alternative is worse: everyone whining that despite the first whining, they still didn't get their gazetteer, so now they have to whine harder...

WFRP Sourcebook 2: Whine Harder :lol:

Regarding the careers descriptions, a final decision has yet to be made for Tilea.

Artaxerxes wrote:

Regarding the careers descriptions, a final decision has yet to be made for Tilea.

Since we're aiming for the two supplements complimenting each other, we should probably have had a meeting on this. Sorry!

Artaxerxes wrote:
Regarding the careers descriptions, a final decision has yet to be made for Tilea.

It would be a shame to destroy your no doubted very hard work on NPC's and Careers by adopting some of the unfortunately horrific layout choices in RotIQ. ;o)

SteveD wrote:

Artaxerxes wrote:

Regarding the careers descriptions, a final decision has yet to be made for Tilea.

Since we're aiming for the two supplements complimenting each other, we should probably have had a meeting on this. Sorry!

In all honesty its just completely slipped my mind! I think we're most likely to stick to the original formatting rather than RoTIQ for careers, certainly my prefered method.

I do mainly ignore the trappings anyway though :oops:

SteveD wrote:
The alternative is worse: everyone whining that despite the first whining, they still didn't get their gazetteer, so now they have to whine harder...

I find it shocking that you will stoop so low as to oblige the whiners! So I'll whine about that to make up for the loss of whinage your rash actions have inflicted on the universe!

Seriously. We all love gazeteers, and including them in these books are bound to make people even more happy about you guys putting them together.

/Magnus

Gazetteers are part of the WFRP tradition. If you want WFRP fans to love you, they must be included.

Just my preferences:

# Races, Their History & Cultures (dwarf, elf, halfling, greenskin)

1. Elves(All- High, Wood, Dark) Preferably one large book.
2. Dwarves

# Enemies and Adversaries (a la Old World Bestiary, Children of the Horned Rat)
3. Orcs and Goblins

# Location/Setting (a la Bretonnia, Kislev, Badlands, etc)
Tilia and Estalia

What is clearly needed is a campaign length adventure set up for Skaven characters.

I agree on RACES as the most important. 2nd edition really lacks some solid description of the playable races (elves, dwarfes and so on...)

omnimpotent wrote:What is clearly needed is a campaign length adventure set up for Skaven characters.

That would be sooo

, were it not for the fact that Skaven are sorta like PC's in a 'Paranoia' game; if any are still alive by the end of the evening, something has gone horribly wrong!

so what we need is a version of the 'six-pack' rule for Skaven. Birthkin, perhaps?

Dr. Rudolf von Richten wrote:

omnimpotent wrote:What is clearly needed is a campaign length adventure set up for Skaven characters.

so what we need is a version of the 'six-pack' rule for Skaven. Birthkin, perhaps?

If six is your recommended number, then six fate points ought to do it. That way, the character keeps all of the mortal enemies, insanity points, disfiguring scars, and missing limbs they've so deservedly earned.

And to slow down the inter-party fatalities, the PC's need a patron/archenemy (and why not both at the same time, as the same character?) that unite them.

1) Araby
2) Tilea
3) Estalia
4) Norsca (and dump the Norsca-as-chaos-waste villain thing and Norsca-as-Vikings crap (Vikings were Dark Ages, WFRP is not Dark Ages, it's late Medieval/Early Renaissance, and contrary to "popular" belief Scandinavia didn't spend the period stuck in the Dark Ages)
5) Campaigns
6) Elves (WFRP Elf book is 'bout due, innit?)

Least important:
1) stuff that's been covered in 1st Edition, then AGAIN in 2nd
2) stuff that's been covered in 1st Edition
3) short scenarios

JQP wrote:
4) Norsca (and dump the Norsca-as-chaos-waste villain thing and Norsca-as-Vikings crap (Vikings were Dark Ages, WFRP is not Dark Ages, it's late Medieval/Early Renaissance, and contrary to "popular" belief Scandinavia didn't spend the period stuck in the Dark Ages)

Except that WFRP, while based upon the RW, is a fantasy setting and only takes aspects of the culture and its history.

Yeah, it's foolish to assume the decision to paint Norsca as uncotemporarenous was made due to ignorance.

It was made due to AWESOMENESS.

"Yeah, it's foolish to assume the decision to paint Norsca as uncotemporarenous was made due to ignorance.

It was made due to AWESOMENESS."

Motion seconded, motion carried. Personally the ideas about Norsca (especially theological ramblings about the nature of worship of Chaos Gods) are one of the best in 2nd edition.

"4) Norsca (and dump the Norsca-as-chaos-waste villain thing and Norsca-as-Vikings crap (Vikings were Dark Ages, WFRP is not Dark Ages, it's late Medieval/Early Renaissance, and contrary to "popular" belief Scandinavia didn't spend the period stuck in the Dark Ages)".

If we want to be precise than Bretonnia is BASED on middle period of Dark Ages (I would say XII-XIII century England and France), Empire is BASED on roughly XV century Holy Roman Empire, Tilea - XV-XVI century Italy, Kislev - XVII century Russia and Poland, Estalia - that`s a bit tricky; personally I would say: politically - Middle Ages, culturally - XVII century.
Going a bit further... let`s say Albion. About III-IV century AD Britain. What were You saying about WFRP being late Medieval/early Renaissance?

And a bit from meself... Going with the trend of basing `hammer countries on real historical ones I never could get out of my head a thought that Ulthuan (as in Kingdom of the High Elves) is REALLY similar to Bizantine Empire...