Welcome WHFRP & Dark Heresy

Tyrant wrote:I'm in the process of writing up some notes for my own Dark Heresy game, and I'd love to give the players a small ship of their own. I was thinking of using the deck plans from the Fading Suns rpg, but was wondering if anyone knew of other deckplans I could look at.

http://vidzup.com/homebrew-settings/valkyrie-floorplan-2.html

http://vidzup.com/general-background/imperial-cobra-destroyer-ship-room-plan-released-2.html

Just bookmark the site

geekoo wrote:....

I'm a little pessimistic and concerned about the future of WHFRP and dark heresy ...

Hi, my first post too!

I can't imagine FFG bought the licence only to NOT publish anything?

I am happier knowing somebody will be looking to continue these two lines than the situation a few weeks back when it seemed NOBODY would be doing anything further with them.

From what I can see FFG are a reputable company with a good line-up - they clearly must think they can make DH & WHFRP commercially viable in a way that GW couldn't.

Equally it's all a bit new at the moment and I imagine people are still trying to get their heads around the systems and implications etc.

FWIW & IMHO some of the BI "refugee" posts have bordered on the hysterical, insulting and silly - FFG may be wondering why they bothered given some of the whining - it's like some people seem to think FFG have only bought the licence to destroy the game and cancel the forthcoming books!

Frankly GW were probably going to do that anyway - I'd have been amazed if we'd got anything after Purge the Unclean regardless of what was posted (yes I know they said up until september - but hey)

Rogue Trader and Space Marines were at least 18 and 36 months down the track and that only as "concepts"

Give these guys a chance for heaven's sake!

N0-1_H3r3 wrote:
From a gaming perspective, Reading isn't a bad place to live...

Indeed. It's so good when I came here to uni I stayed.
Well it was either that or go back to Grimsby

I also Echo the thanks for FFg picking up the Line, I hope they will make all three (including the SM one because I'm curious but ESPECIALLY rogue trader)

However I do Pray to both the Emperor and any of the Ruinous powers that they leave the game system as is (well fix some holes maybe...) and don't try and bolt the setting onto a different system. You take the system away and I'm afraid your licence to print money dissappears. After all if people wanted WH40K D&D there are websites out there already (I expect... never checked as the idea makes me shudder.)

So Keep d% Keep the system as is (with polishing) and I will gladly buy your stuff!

Change it to D20 and face Exterminatus!

Edited as I sounded a bit ungrateful...

And I AM grateful! I can assuming it continues as it is see me spending a lot of time playing DH and WFRP and I with the FFG guys every luck with it!

mordheim, those are brilliant!
Thanks!

I LOVE the Cobra deck plans.
Did you make them yourself? And if so, what software did you use?

Tyrant

First post!

Huzzah for the continuation of Dark Heresy (and Rogue Trader)!

I suppose it's somewhat of an irony that the discussions about Dark Heresy and WFRP have cropped up in a thread described as for "Older RPG titles and sourcebooks"...

...but then, I suspected that the BI forum faithful would find some way or other to land a significant beach-head in this place!

I have my concerns about how things might go for both WFRP and DH - but I'll wait and see how things go nonetheless.

We have just posted the initial FAQ regarding this deal:

http://fantasyflightgames.com/workshop-sabertooth-faq.html

We'll be posting information to our website on a regular basis when we lock down publishing info.

Thanks for your patience!

- Jeremy @ FFG

Good set of answers.
Exceedingly happy to read them.
Thanks for keeping us posted, and for taking on these games.

Best of luck with them all.
Not that I think you really need it.
I for one will be hurling great handsfull of money in your general direction as soon as you start printing the books and I'm damned sure I'm not the only one.

Wonderful news!
Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
And my deepest thanks once again for saving a game line many of us have been hoping to see for years.

I can't wait to start giving you oodles of my money : )

433 wrote:We have just posted the initial FAQ regarding this deal:

http://fantasyflightgames.com/workshop-sabertooth-faq.html

We'll be posting information to our website on a regular basis when we lock down publishing info.

Thanks for your patience!

- Jeremy @ FFG

Gah! I missed this completely. When I noted the FAQ was up I initially looked for a new topic, not a post in this thread. I've just posted this link in the General FFG Forum because I thought it hadn't been highlighted yet.

Oops! Sorry about that.

Ah well, more people might notice it now; that's kind of a good thing. I'll be more vigilant next time.

Hi, first post on this site from another of the BI forums/fora drones.

First of all, let me thank FFG for keeping DH and WFRP alive.

Thanks as well for the concise and direct answers to the FAQs. Although some lingering doubts still have to be allayed...when you say that DH and WFRP will not be converted to D20...how big is that "no", exactly? How heart-felt? Is it written in blood?

Childhoods are being defiled as we speak due to this dearth of answers.

On a more serious note, I'd like to move away from the emerging consensus and join Erik in the request for some sort of Space Marine supplement.

I think that after the three announced DH supplements are published, the Calixis sector will be quite playable and it will be time to go for the more iconic features of the 40K setting. Besides, one assumes that FFG will want to recoup costs, and a book with SMs, or a bestiary with ample information on the most beloved alien species for example, would be bound to sell like hot cakes.

Although I gather that Erik and I would not tend to enjoy the same kind of session, he's perfectly on the money when he points at the pseudo-knightly ethos of most Space Marines orders/chapters. Add to that some other quirks, like e.g. grudge-bearing hypermnesia and whatnot, and you have enough material to add depth to everybody's favourite bolter-toting killing machines.

Anyway, I'm rambling on. Best of luck with 40K and WH!

Congrats to FFG for picking up WFRP and DH. Here's hoping you lads keep the same gritty and dark feel to both games (read between the lines: no cartoony/anime style artwork). Glad to hear that the games won't be changed to D20. It would be nice if they stayed in their current edition. Also, it would be terrific if WFRP got some attention (new product line) amidst the success of DH. Just the requests of a hopeful beggar. Anyhow, I'm happy that you chaps bought the licenses to these fine games and trust that you will put the same high level of production value into them that you have with your other games, all the while retaining the flavor of the Warhammer universe. Cheers.

YAY the Faq answers all my questions.

I shall now return to "Quietly awaiting books so I can throw money their way" mode!

Best News I saw was the plans for NEW material. The old stuff was great, but I'm excitied to see what FFG could do with the IP's....

Hello everyone!

I am pretty new to WFRP, well I have owned the books for a while, but have not been able to start a campain. I'll start a campain soon but really need to get more felling of the Warhammer world, so I have at most times stayed in the back at BI-forum, lurkin in the shadows

It's good news that someone got the license for WFRP and DH. I hope the FFG will do the same good job BI did with the games, but I guess we will have to wait and see

I also hope the all the great stuff at BI-site will be rescued in some way (the Q/A is the best support for a game I have seen) and also hope that WFRP will recive the same (4) topics as at BI-site, one for each subject (rules, GM, etc). Then there is the issue about Marienburg, also a great source, I wounder what will happen to it? I cross my fingers and hope that FFG (or BI) will in some way keep it online or publish it

For those who dismiss the idea of a Marines game as being Combat heavy, I have to say they're talking out of the wrong orifice. Yes, marines are genetically enhanced psychotic killing machines with a monastic background, but they are also people with their own distinct personalities.

Having become bored waiting for 4okrpg, I've been running games in the 40k background on and off for 10 years now, and back at the start everyone was convinced that any game set in the 40k universe would be really just a big skirmish battle with little character development. I quickly shot that one down by running a 5 year Inquisition campaign (similar idea to the Dark Heresy idea, where most of the fighting fell to only a few characters (one of them the inquisitor), while the rest of the party were almost entirely focussed on solving the riddle at the heart of the campaign.

At present I'm rounding up after 2 years a space marine game, where the players who were convinced it would be combat heavy have found that most of the combat is skimmed over (after all, they're superhuman psychotic killing machines - that's what they do), and the bulk of the campaign is focussed more on the internal and external politics of the chapter, its interaction with its homeworld, legion brothers and the imperial cult (after all, most marines aren't followers of the God-Emperor of the Ministorum. The real fun is the interaction between those who've grown up in civilisation and the character who was raised in the chapter's forge and so sees the dark arts of the Mechanicus as second nature, rather than something to fear.

That's not to say I'm baying for the Deathwatch book NOW, far from it - the three core books, as pointed out elsewhere slowly turn up the power and with it the risk. Take time, enjoy being acolytes for they have the protection of an inquisitor - the universe is a dark and dangerous place, and on your own only one thing is certain - you will not be missed.

Well, first post here on the new forums (I'm the same von Richten as on the BI forums, in case you're wondering) and I say, all hail the new masters!

That said, I sincerely hope that said masters will have the wisdom to hire some of the great freelance writers that BI employed; mr. Law (gotta love those maps!), mr. Darlington (who can write as if he is a Skaven/Vampire/whatever), mr. MacGregor (idem ditto) and mr. Luikart (who writes great scenario's if nothing else). Or, they could just subcontract to/ steal employees (mr. Schwalb, for one, and mr. Chart, for another, and let's not forget mr. Allen and miss. Flack) from Green Ronin and/or BI.

I quess my point is: the previous writers for WFRP did one hell of a job, so I suggest FFG has either to continue letting them do that job or find people even better (if they exist).

"miss. Flack" (I have no idea of her marital status or why it's mentioned) works for Mythic on W.A.R. now:

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/meetTheTeam/kateFlack.php

By the way, her brother seems to be in good taste, with all those Fighting Fantasy gamebooks he forced upon his sister!

Tyrant wrote:I'm in the process of writing up some notes for my own Dark Heresy game, and I'd love to give the players a small ship of their own. I was thinking of using the deck plans from the Fading Suns rpg, but was wondering if anyone knew of other deckplans I could look at.
Tyrant.

I wondered the same at the BI forums and got a few realy nice answers.
There are apperently no official deckplans, but in the thread I got some links to a bunch of (non-40k) starships and other relevant info.

http://forum.blpublishing.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4820

Here is a link to another thread. A guy made some deckplans on his own... pretty good.
http://forum.blpublishing.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5155

(can also be found at http://invivos.atspace.com/dark.html )

Aren't the deckplans for the Cobra Class Escort fantastic?
I can't imagine how long it must have taken to design...

Hell of a great game prop, let me tell ya.
Gonna be hard waiting for a Rogue Trader game!

Tyrant.

Warden signing in. Good to be here. I've had good experiences with FFG boardgames, and thus remain cautiously optimistic.

Evening all...

Well, well, well...its so bright and shiny here i feel like i've defected to the Tau Empire...

Luddite wrote:Evening all...

Well, well, well...its so bright and shiny here i feel like i've defected to the Tau Empire...

Bah. I hate the Tau... they're so Un Warhammer 40K. All the other races have mega domestic conflicts, and are dark, and grim, and awesome. The Tau are all mickey mouse, with their well ordered society, no inner conflicts, and cool technology.

Esin wrote:
Bah. I hate the Tau... they're so Un Warhammer 40K. All the other races have mega domestic conflicts, and are dark, and grim, and awesome. The Tau are all mickey mouse, with their well ordered society, no inner conflicts, and cool technology.

Please... the Tau are a culture that seeks to dominate the galaxy, and isn't so xenophobic that they feel the need to exterminate all the species' in the process... they're quite willing to integrate your species as servants and vassals of their Greater Good (and it is their Greater Good. They might let you live, but they're still the ones in charge).

First they ask nicely if you want to join them. If you refuse, they shoot you in the knees. Then they ask again...

The shiny happy surface is a faÃ§ade. The Tau may be naive and clean-looking, but there's still room for plenty of grim unpleasantness.

It helps that they're insidious. Imperial worlds have fallen to them without weapons ever being raised...

Breaker checking in.

And isn't that spooky? Clean, pretty, shiny space invaders who, so caught up in being clean, pretty, and shiny, cut your arms off with mono-filament blades that atomize your blood off the metal, then activate a system on their armors that steam off your bodily fluids? One could imagine a Tau wearing a sealed helmet so he does get your inferior germs on him, or torturing you inside of a sealed container so when you blood boils and your stomach ruptures, the mess is contained and won't leak out on their white power gloves.