|Descent: Journeys In The Dark | Published 04 May 2010|
The seas of Torue Albes are filled with untold perils. Daggertooth Sharks and ferocious Krakens prowl the murky depths, hoping to pull unwary sailors into a watery grave. Above the waves, terrifying ghost ships manned by the undead and massive brigantines commanded by beastmen lay claim to all they see. Only the bravest of heroes dare venture beyond sight of the shore.
Fantasy Flight Games is pleased to announce an exciting new product, coming this summer, for Descent’s Sea of Blood expansion. For players looking to enhance their voyages in the waters of Torue Albes, your ship has come in.
This summer, you can master the waves in style with the Sea of Blood Ocean Map Board! With a beautifully rendered island on one side and open ocean on the other, this double-sided, folding tactical map board replaces the Ocean Poster Map from the Descent: Sea of Blood expansion. Its sturdy cardboard lays perfectly flat when you’re playing and stores away easily when you’re done.
Whether you’re the vile Overlord, planning the demise of the The Revenge, or the intrepid sailors battling to foil his plot, the Sea of Blood Ocean Map Board will bring you and your crew smooth sailing. Simply swap out the poster map included in Descent: Sea of Blood, fold out this new board, and get ready for high-sea adventure!
Keep watching at your local game store!
Descent: Journeys in the Dark is a tactical board game for 2-5 players that takes a party of adventurers deep into the dungeons of Terrinoth for adventure, treasure, and glory. But beware! The Overlord and his minions stand poised to oppose any heroes foolhardy enough to enter the dungeon.
Actually It is a bit ridiculous. Even some of the sales people at the games stores I shop at think it isn't worth it and they don't make a point of pushing it...which is weird because you'd think they'd WANT to sell it just to get rid of it if nothing else.
Still, if you REALLY love the game and it's your main hobby..well, maybe it's worth it. But it really should have been included.
I think that the pewter figures are fine as an extra... personally I would have been happier if they were plastic ( i am not a good painter and unpainted plastic looks better than unpainted pewter) but I do think this should have been included. I understand financial reasons... but 5-10 more dollars a box should have covered the price of this. $20 seems alittle high. This is the second thing in the descent universe of games recently that has been very disappointing. The first was the fact that the "promo" figures in the bag for the weekend of games in the Runebound Universe were simply re-issues of previously released figures with new cards for Runewars. The fact that those who purchased the figures previously cannot purchase just the cards to make these figures compatible with Runewars feels like a slap in the face. Until this point I have had nothing but good things to say about FFG, both in customer service and creativity/quality of their games. I just hope these few instances were hiccups in the process and not signs of impending doom that you are going to start screwing the customers like Hasbro has started Wizards of the Coast doing.
That being said... I spent more hours than I care to admit or think about playing Descent and I truly love every FFG game I have ever had. And I also have to point out Thaad Powell has always made the extra effort to be extremely helpful to me. FFG's customer service is second to none.
To Mr. Christian Peterson, CEO of Fantasy Flight Games:
First, thank you very much for the personal response. This level of customer care is exactly what I have come to expect from FFG and why I am a huge supporter. Your customer care representative, Thaadd Powell, has and continues to exemplify what "customer care" really should be. I can only hope that other companies follow your example.
The trade off of dropping the price point of SoB by releasing it with a poster map makes total sense to me from a business perspective. Making money is what FFG should do to ensure the company continues and great games are released. My issue is not on this point.
My issue is with the possible new standard that FFG could be adopting.
I spend a great deal of money and time on FFG's games, from board to role playing. I have always received quality and quantity, which greatly offsets the price, in my opinion. When I saw the poster map, I was surprised and determined at that time it was an "extra" put in at last minute. I was grateful for it.
Two weeks later, I see the notice that FFG will be offering for purchase a board of the poster map was troubling news. In my opinion, I had spent money on an incomplete product and now FFG was offering, at cost to me, an "upgrade".
I hope FFG sees where I am going with this. I love expansions and I love extras. What I do not like is higher quality components being offered after the sale of the original as an "upgrade". For the amount of money I spend and the hours I play the games, I expect (and I don't think I'm being unreasonable) quality through and through.
With the release of the "upgrade" Descent miniatures, and now with the release of the "upgrade" map, I don't like how this appears to be headed. I certainly don't want to buy a game one day from FFG and later learn that more and more of the base components can now be purchased, again, allowing me to have a higher quality and more durable good.
Again, I thank Mr. Peterson for his time and personal message on this topic. I leave it to rest of the community to determine if this is a "need" or a "want".
Awesome! I can't wait to pimp out my game with this map!
Come on guys, Everything FFG adds to the box will increase the price of the box and they wanted to maintain consistency with each expansion's price points. People would of been complaining about the expansion if it cost another $20 dollars, so at least this way the players have a choice whether they want the extra quality.
I want all my Lieutenants to have been pewter mini's rather than punch out chits but if Road to Legends would of cost $150.00 I wouldn't of bought it. This is all just a compromise with the customers not foul play.
The product they sell is not incomplete and requiring us to purchase each accessory, it's just a way to pimp out our game. Speaking of which, I would love to purchase a complete set of plastic Lieutenant mini's all in one package or for each expansion, and at a lower price point than the pewter ones if you think it profitable FFG. Thanks.
I am greatly disappointed, FFG. You have been publishing quality products but fell hard when you provided a poster map instead of a board. And now, with the announcement of a "replacement" for the poster map that is the very board that should have been included in the game in the first place, FFG wreaks of foul play.
When I buy a game, I expect quality. This new map is a slap in the face to anyone who bought the game expecting FFG's quality to be included in the first place.
I feel cheated, FFG. Cheated and I know full well you are trying to take advantage of us customers. I, for one, will not be buying this board. The poster map is fine, but shows how lazy FFG was with the production. An excellent reminder to me the next time I consider buying an FFG game.
I want this board, but I want it for free, or at the least, only paying for shipping and handling, because this very well should have been included from the get go. And I think you know it.
[FFG Reply]: Siddy, the quantity of content in SoB was unprecedented and very much exceeding our expectations for value in the box. You will recall that you *did* get a mounted board (the adventure map), and a plethora of mounted (punched board) "ship boards", this all in addition to the poster map and the massive amount of gameplay that the expansion offered.
Saying that the work we placed in SoB is lazy or that somehow SoB "took advantage of us customers" is simply untrue, just look at the value that we were able to squeeze into SoB. While we could have placed such a mounted sea-board in the game, we felt that adding another $20 to the price of the expansion would have been prohibitive. Instead, we're able to provide this seperately for players wishing to have a mounted board, we think this is a positive for the customer, not a negative.
I really appreciate your passion in this, we're passionate about our games too. We also have to live in the real world, however, so we face real restrictions when it comes to what we can afford to add in a box. I can assure you that we spend great, great amounts of time and effort seeking to maximize value for the customer, and I'm completely confident that SoB represents one of the best values in the marketplace, period. I'm sorry if you disagree, but in the least you now have a response from us in this matter.
As much as this should have been a part of the original release. I am thinking maybe by adding a mini campaign booklet, additional cards or something like that might spruce the deal in encouraging folks to purchase this without upping the price tag.
I haven't purchase sea of blood yet but I was hoping something like this was included and not a poster map
Very cool! Depending on the price point, I might even get one for just for RPG purposes.
Sorry, it should have been in the box from the start...
It's a good thing that a new board is comming but one thing is sad - why did we not got in in the first place with the Sea of Blood expansion?
A board is a board and not a poster map that's one good thing. It will allways lie flat. If the price won't be to high I think I will bought it but, we will see.
I hope this is not the Descent product for the year. It would be really lame.