mageith said:

I think people who draw Mary just "give up" and play her poorly, because they hate her. For me, Mary's always good .

Also, WTF is up with Amanda Sharpe and her 75+% ? No effing way! Or maybe I just play her poorly 'cos I hate her .

mageith said:

I think that Tibs already provides the chances of winning during Final Combat for each AO. But I can work out the other ways to win.

zeb said:

I use that stat to extrapolate my figures. What I am interested in the chances of winning by seals/closing when entering into a game with a particular GOO.  If you look up higher in the thread you'll see my extrapolation.      My extrapolation is not exact: It assumes every game is either a seal/close victory, a final battle victory or a final battle loss.  Other wins and losses would be interesting.

I've included chances to win by Final Combat, and chances to win without the AO awakening (The entry on my last report is Most Restless). This is essentially a combination of chances to seal and chances to close.

I didn't bother to differentiate between winning by closing vs. winning by sealing, because their relative chances are probably not based on the AO so much as the number of players and overall luck of the game. Only Hastur, Yibb, and Atlach should yield a significantly different ratio, but it might be worth investigating for anyone who cares.

Would it be possible to add a field for Scenarios? Especially with a 'Custom' entry, that would be really helpful.

• Stats report for 02/17/09:
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• Introduction

There have been 1119 reported sessions:

65.2% were reported as victories:

356 Victories by seals
238 Victories by Final Combat
135 Victories by closing all gates
1 Victory by "For the Greater Good" mission

...Leaving 34.8% as Defeats:

361 Defeats by Final Combat
12 Forfeits
7 Pre-Final Combat Shudde M'ell Earthquakes
6 Defeats by King in Yellow's Act III
3 Successful completions of "Joining the Winning Team"

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• Ancient Ones

• Most popular
Here are the Ancient Ones, in order from most to least commonly played, followed by the number of games:

1. Nyarlathotep    116
2. Yig    105
3. Hastur    94
4. Cthulhu    90
5. + Shub-Niggurath    88
6. - Azathoth    82
7. ++ Yog-Sothoth    72
8. - Ithaqua    70
9. - Shudde M'ell    67
10. + Abhoth    62
11. - Tsathoggua    62
12. Glaaki    55
13. Y'Golonac    49
14. Atlach-Nacha    42
15. Yibb-Tstll    34
16. Eihort    31

• Most dangerous
Here are the Ancient Ones, from highest to lowest investigator defeat percentage:

1. Atlach-Nacha    59.5%
2. Y'Golonac    53.1%
3. Glaaki    50.9%
4. Abhoth    43.5%
5. + Shudde M'ell    40.3%
6. - Cthulhu    40.0%
7. ++ Tsathoggua    38.7%
8. - Yibb-Tstll    38.2%
9. - Shub-Niggurath    37.5%
10. + Azathoth    32.9%
11. + Eihort    32.3%
12. -- Yog-Sothoth    30.6%
13. Hastur    28.7%
14. Ithaqua    25.7%
15. Yig    21.9%
16. Nyarlathotep    19.8%

• Most restless
Here are the Ancient Ones, from highest to lowest percent of games where it has awoken (this is essentially the difficulty to close or seal):

1. Yig    80.0%
2. Glaaki    69.1%
3. + Atlach-Nacha    69.0%
4. + Y'Golonac    65.3%
5. -- Abhoth    64.5%
6. Shudde M'ell    50.7%
7. + Hastur    58.5%
8. + Shub-Niggurath    55.7%
9. -- Nyarlathotep    55.2%
10. + Ithaqua    50.0%
11. - Yibb-Tstll    47.1%
12. Cthulhu    43.3%
13. + Eihort    41.9%
14. - Yog-Sothoth    37.5%
15. Tsathoggua    33.9%
16. Azathoth    28.0%

*This includes the investigators' losses by Shudde M'ell wrecking the town.

• Hardest to fight
Here are the AOs, from highest to lowest investigator defeat percentage during Final Combat:

1. Azathoth    100.0%
2. Tsathoggua    95.2%
3. Atlach-Nacha    86.2%
4. Cthulhu    84.6%
5. Yog-Sothoth    81.5%
6. Y'Golonac    81.3%
7. Yibb-Tstll    81.3%
8. Eihort    76.9%
9. Glaaki    68.4%
10. Shub-Niggurath    67.3%
11. Abhoth    62.5%
12. Shudde M'ell    58.8%
13. Ithaqua    51.4%
14. Hastur    43.6%
15. Nyarlathotep    32.8%
16. Yig    26.2%

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• Heralds

• Most popular
In games that used a Herald, the percent of those games that each Herald was used:
 

1. King in Yellow    31.1%
2. Tulzscha    17.2%
3. + Ghroth    16.1%
4. - Dunwich Horror    15.5%
5. Dark Pharaoh    13.5%
6. Black Goat    6.6%

59.5% of games did not use a herald.

• Herald effectiveness
The percent of investigator-lost games, by herald:
 

1. + Ghroth    45.2%
2. - Dunwich Horror    44.3%
3. Tulzscha    38.5%
4. King in Yellow    34.8%
5. No herald    32.7%
6. Dark Pharaoh    31.1%
7. Black Goat    30.0%

• Unattempted combos
These are combinations of Ancient Ones and Heralds that have not yet been attempted:
 

• Atlach-Nacha / Black Goat
• Yibb-Tstll / Black Goat

Only one has been attempted since the last report. Get to it, investigators!!!


• Undefeated combos
These are combinations of Ancient Ones and Heralds that have been attempted at least once, but have not been won by the investigators (combos still undefeated from the last report are in bold):
 

• Abhoth / Black Goat
• Y'Golonac / Black Goat
• Yog-Sothoth / Black Goat
• Y'Golonac / Dark Pharaoh
• Atlach-Nacha / Dunwich Horror
• Y'Golonac / Dunwich Horror
• Glaaki / Tulzscha

Congrats to Acebob for toppling Yog-Sothoth / Ghroth and to Bel-Shamharoth for defeating both Eihort / Dark Pharaoh AND Shub-Niggurath / Ghroth!


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• Guardians

• Most popular
In games that used a Guardian, the percent of those games that each Guardian was used:
 

1. Nodens   40.2%
2. Hypnos   34.2%
3. Bast   25.6%

71.8% of games did not use a guardian.

• Guardian effectiveness
The percent of games investigators won, by Guardian:
 

1. No guardian   67.6%
2. Nodens   59.8%
3. Bast   59.3%
4. Hypnos   58.3%

Oh cool. The heralds have all come very close to offering equal protection.

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• Investigator Popularity
Investigators sorted from most games used to least:
 

1. Mandy Thompson    215
2. Darrell Simmons    151
3. Joe Diamond    139
4. Dexter Drake    135
5. Carolyn Fern    131
6. "Ashcan" Pete    131
7. ++ Jenny Barnes    127
8. - Michael McGlen    126
9. - Kate Winthrop    117
10. +++ Harvey Walters    113
11. - Monterey Jack    110
12. - Diana Stanley    110
13. +++ Leo Anderson    109
14. -- Jacqueline Fine    107
15. - Bob Jenkins    102
16. - Wilson Richards    101
17. Gloria Goldberg    99
18. Mark Harrigan    95
19. Sister Mary    93
20. +++ Amanda Sharpe    93
21. - Rita Young    91
22. - Vincent Lee    89
23. - Lily Chen    88
24. Daisy Walker    84
25. Marie Lambeau    81
26. Jim Culver    76
27. Wendy Adams    69
28. Rex Murphy    64
29. + Luke Robinson    62
30. - Lola Hayes    61
31. Tony Morgan    58
32. Charlie Kane    49

• Team numbers
How many games involve how many investigators:

1    26
2    180
3    229
4    523
5    84
6    56
7    13
8    7
9    1


• Team size vs. Chance to win
Percent of games won by certain sized investigator teams:

1    46.2%
2    58.9%
3    61.1%
4    70.4%
5    69.0%
6    62.5%
7    46.2%
8    42.9%
9    not enough data


• Team size vs. % won by closing all gates:

1    7.7%
2    4.4%
3    9.2%
4    14.1%
5    21.4%
6    16.1%
7    15.4%
8    not enough data
9    not enough data


• Team size vs. % won by sealing gates:

1    3.8%
2    25.6%
3    26.2%
4    37.7%
5    29.8%
6    41.1%
7    15.4%
8    not enough data
9    not enough data

• Team size vs. % won by Final Combat
If the Ancient One awoke, the percent of games where teams of a certain size were victorious in Final Combat.

1    40.9%
2    43.0%
3    42.8%
4    40.4%
5    36.6%
6    13.0%
7    22.2%
8    20.0%
9    N/A


• Investigator selection method:

Random    71.8%
Before AO    22.2%
After AO    5.9%

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• Expansions used
The percent of games that used any given expansion:

DH    59.5%
CotDP    44.7%
KiY   42.5%
KH    32.9%
none    20.4%
BGotW    8.4%


• Special events
The number of games in which a given special event occured

Dual-Color OW battle    32       
"Old Debt" paid to the Dark Man at Wizard's Hill    3       
Coded Messages activated    7       
Darke's Blessing activated    4       
Rare Book Collection activated    1       
Velma's Gratitude activated    4       
DH awoke    137    (20.6% of all games using the Dunwich board)
DH awoke w/o DH herald    101    16.9%   
DH awoke with DH herald    36    51.4%   
% increase from using he DH herald    203.5%   
DH was defeated    34    (24.8%  of games in which it awoke)
Terror Level reached 10    75       
At least one rift opened    19       
"Switched bodies" at the Science Building    2       
Devoured by 0 San/Sta simultaneously    6       
A gate burst removed a seal    28       


• Special acquisitions
The number of games in which a particular title was gained

Anointed    4
Barred from a Neighborhood    16
Beloved of Bast    6
Captain of the White Ship    27
Changed    17
Deputy of Arkham    212
Harried    5
Local Guide    6
One of the Thousand Cult Membership    22
Private Investigator    2
Psychic    9
Rail Pass    12
Sheldon Gang Membership    18
Silver Twilight Lodge Membership    173
Tainted    6
Visions    15
Wanted    2


• Ways the Ancient One awoke
Number of reported games where the AO awoke a given way:

The doom track filled    78
Too many gates were open    30
Too many monsters (after TL10)    11
Ran out of monster tokens    1
Ran out of Servants of Glaaki    1
Call Ancient One spell    2

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• Top contributors
These are the individuals who contributed the largest number of games:
 

1. Tibs    93    8.3%
2. mageith    87    7.8%
3. Dam    72    6.4%
4. jhaelen    44    3.9%
5. flamethrower49    36    3.2%
6. Victimizer    33    2.9%
7. Cariosus    29    2.6%
8. Morgaln    24    2.1%
9. Vemb    23    2.1%
10. dj    22    2.0%

I think flamethrower49 took everyone's recommendations about expansions seriously. All of his submissions have been with the Dunwich Horror and King in Yellow expansions. He's also climbing the ladder like a maniac.

I love these.

I only wish I had time to do the league and attempt the unbeaten combinations!

Is there a good way to get comprehensive rumour statistics?  Like which rumours contribute to the success or failure of the investigators?  That sounds interesting. 

awp832 said:

Last time I updated the forum, I entered checkboxes for passed or failed rumors. The best I can do for now is wait for a significant number of entries, and then reveal how often each rumor is passed or failed. It would be really difficult to correlate how these affected the entire game's outcome.

• Stats report for 03/02/09:

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Kudos again, Tibs.   Very interesting stuff.   A suggestion though,   flamethrower49 and myself agree that we'd be very interested to see a new column of % games won-lost with certain Rumors passed/failed.    Kind of a 'deadliest rumors' kind of thing.    Also, #4 baby!  yeah!   Dam, we're gunning for you!

1193 games. 32.9% used Kingsport.  Only 19 games had any rifts open.  That's less than 5%.  I had 4 of them and Tibs had more than me.

Interesting.

It's interesting to me that nearly 1/3rd of games use Kingsport and that the rifts are so fearsome that we keep them very well undercontrol.

Almost as many have been Changed (17) as have seen a rift in action.

 Tibs  Thanks for the reports.  I look forward to them!

awp832 said:

Hehe, as I've said before, my last game was in mid-December. Also, doesn't look like I'll be going from 72 to 84 (7th rotation of AH + DH GOOs) anytime soon, Age of Conan should be in stores this month, looking to get Lord of the Rings TBG as well, maybe May will bring a change with Innsmouth, although the Dungeon expansion for Talisman is also scheduled for May, so who knows. Most likely it'll be summer when I next crack open my AH .

Well guys, I have responses for you--

flamethrower49 (and friend):

You can see my stats submission page includes rumors. I wanted to wait for few stats reports before reporting on the rumors, so that I can gather up a bit of info.

Mageith:

I put the exact number of instances of open rifts and other events on the list instead of % of games for a reason. Those are the number of reported instances of opening rifts since I added that option to the stats page; it's not meant to be turned into a percentage. Every one of the submissions I've personally made was after I'd gotten Kingsport, but the "rift opened" check box was added fairly recent.

• Stats report for 03/16/2009:

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