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Parrying weapons
Published on 18 October 2012 - 09:32:23
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Quick question. In the rulebook it says that I need a melee weapon to parry an oponent's attack. I was wondering if it's possible to parry a melee attack with  ranged weapon like stub pistol or lasgun? Would it be also possible to block an enemy melee weapon attack with just a hand? I know that I've read somewhere about that possibility (official DH source material perhaps?). I think this would be possible if a person would be wearing heavy armour like a plate, a carapace or a power armour, and the opponent's weapon would not possess certain qualities like mono or a power field. Any ideas on that matter?

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Reply #1 | Published on 19 October 2012 - 09:30:07

Xathrodox86 said:

Quick question. In the rulebook it says that I need a melee weapon to parry an oponent's attack. I was wondering if it's possible to parry a melee attack with  ranged weapon like stub pistol or lasgun? Would it be also possible to block an enemy melee weapon attack with just a hand? I know that I've read somewhere about that possibility (official DH source material perhaps?). I think this would be possible if a person would be wearing heavy armour like a plate, a carapace or a power armour, and the opponent's weapon would not possess certain qualities like mono or a power field. Any ideas on that matter?

There are no rules about parrying with a stub pistol or lasgun that I am aware of.  (unless the lasgun has the melee attachment upgrade)  By Rules As Written I do not believe you can.

However, I treat things like rifles as improvised melee weapons with all of the corresponding rules.  So this opens up some possibility.

No, you can't block a melee attack with a hand.  That would be exactly the same as saying the opponent gets a successful strike to your arm.  You might be able to argue that a successful parry attempt with your arm would result in the arm being damaged instead of say…the head.  Still, this starts introducing a slippery slope of arguments that I don't advise going down.

 

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Reply #2 | Published on 19 October 2012 - 11:29:26

I might allow parrying melee weapon attacks unarmed only if you have both of the Unarmed Talents (one increases the damage your unamred attacks do, the other allows you to count as armed when making attacks.)

Because you count as armed, I might allow it. However, you might want to avaoid parrying Power weapons. Just saying.

As for using a bolt gun: I would allow it as an improvised weapon, so long as it's a basic weapon (pistols are generally too small to be used to parry, I would think.) However, on a successful parry, I might roll damage and apply it instead to the weapon. So maybe your bolt gun would become useless and need to be repaired, or gain the unreliable quality or something. And of course: see my previous point about power weapons.

You'd be better off getting a melee attachment for ther gun instead.

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Reply #3 | Published on 30 January 2013 - 22:55:26
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In our group if you are considered armed Via Unarmed Warrior or Unarmed Master then we allow parrying weapons. The idea being you dont put your hand into the chainsword to slow it down you grab their wrist and push it aside or whatever.

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Reply #4 | Published on 31 January 2013 - 00:43:30

Why don't you just roll Dodge instead?

Orkses never lose. If we win, we win, if we die, we die fightin' so it don't count. If we runs fer it, it don't count neither 'cus we can come back fer anuvver go, see?

Reply #5 | Published on 31 January 2013 - 07:26:42
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Boss Gitsmasha said:

Why don't you just roll Dodge instead?

low agility roll? no access to dodge skill yet? agility damage/penalty?

Adeptus mechanicus contains lunatics with high restrictions, fanatics who follow the machine god… I am the same, except no restrictions.

Reply #6 | Published on 31 January 2013 - 09:32:23

Use an armored gauntlet.  Catching blades and deflecting Eviscerators with your barehands is beyond the pale.

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