StarBurn said:

Personally I hope that we won't just get one more track that has to be kept under control like the Dunwhich Horror or the Rift tracks, but something that actually has some strategy attached to it. Kinda like the Battlefield expansion for LotR.

Something like military tokens that can defend against a limited number of enemies or a limited power of enemies and that can be positioned and need help from the investigators,...

In a comment on BGG, Kevin Wilson alluded to the Innsmouth expansion and Bokrug. There was nothing specific in the comment that indicated Bokrug would be a GOO (it's possible he could function in some other manner).

I'm trying to answer a question about the sources for information on the Innsmouth expansion but I can't seem to figure out how to insert one of those nifty quotes. How do you do it?

I'm starting to think that they may be running out of material to work with for expansions.  Other details aside, I think Innsmouth if it is in production/creation, really will be the last one.  I can see them printing other games using the Arkham mechanics (such as the aforementioned 'by Gaslight' suggestion) much like they did with Runebound, or like they have coming with Android.  (I could be wrong on Android, but I've read unconfirmed reports that it is an Arkham style game.) 

kilrah said:

OK. That seems like an impractical demand.

kilrah said:

That would just be another track that has to be kept under control. I mean, it would be a system by which there would be nominally a lot of monsters that need to be kept under control, and then there's be an attached mechanic where you could blow up a lot of monsters "with soldiers." But that's still just one more tack that has to be kept under control. That's what the game is. There are tracks, they get out of control, that's bad, investigators have to do something about that. That's how the game works. That is, by definition, what every new mechanic will be.

In Dunwich, you have to kill monsters before they jump into holes. In Kingsport you need someone plodding around Kingsport keeping dreamers in check. And in Innsmouth there will be something you need to do to keep things from getting out of hand. Now maybe it's going to be some sort of evolving system of checkpoints where you have to go have encounters to move a limited number of blockades around to keep Deep Ones from getting to the armory, but that's still by definition going to exactly what you're complaining about even it is exactly what you are asking for.

-Frank

I think an Innsmouth board expansion is a must. I'd like to see a few more smaller expansions then maybe a whole new Cthulhu type game.

Frank said:

The moving of blockades would be fine by me. Of couse everything is a kind of track. Its just that I'd like to see something more then a simple one dimensional thing that has no thematic tie in per se. Something that feels like being in the fight rather then seeing spots on TV about how far the enemy pushed ahead so far.

Whole bunch of things being said here.

@RudyHuxxxtable:

There are countless Cthulhu Mythos locations. However, Massachusetts locations by Lovecraft are more limited, the only ones currently missing being Innsmouth and Salem (the latter being a real city, so it is unlikely to show up as a game board).

@Dreamshadow:

Not even a 20th of all Cthulhu Mythos material has been used so far - however, as far as boards go, there aren't alot left to add which can be reached quickly by train (see above answer).

@JeanPaulValley:

I suppose 'Umr at-Tawil could make an appearance as a Herald or Guardian, but as an ancient one he is already included in the base set (Yog-Sothoth). The list of unused ancient ones is fairly large. Lovecraft's would be Bokrug, Nug, Yeb, the nameless mist, the darkness, Ghatanothoa and Rhan-Tegoth.

The authors which have been used up to now for providing ancient ones are August Derleth, Brian Lumley, Clark Ashton Smith, H. P. Lovecraft and Ramsey Campbell.

Off the top of my head that leaves (and this is an incomplete list), for ancient ones: Cthugha, Zhar, Lloigor, Ubbo-Sathla, Bokrug, Daoloth, the green man, Quachil Uttaus, Bugg-Shash, Byatis, Cxaxukluth, Ghizguth, Shathak, Hzioulquoigmnzhah, Gloon, Gnophkeh, Juk-Shabb, M'Nagalah, Mnomquah, Mordiggian, Ycnagnnisssz, Oorn, Ossadogowah, Othuum, Summanus, Tru'Nembra, Vulthoom, Yegg-Ha, Zstylzhemgni...lots anyway. If we were to add other authors (even just ones from Lovecraft's circle, or other important ones such as Lin Carter or Edward P. Berglund), the list grows exponentially.

As for the topic, yeah, Innsmouth would be nice, and is likely the next and last board expansion. It's possible that another card expansion could follow it - there are certainly enough things one could do there - as well as the occasional online content (such as the two online Heralds). But I think anything more than that just starts getting...a bit too much when adding everything together, or even just stacking it somewhere. I'd rather see them do another different cthulhoid game after Innsmouth and another card-only expansion (which would hopefully include things to fix watered down elements. Y'know, stuff like extra Dunwich gate cards).

I will be happy with just Innsmouth.

Cthugha, Lloigor, Gathanothoa and Chaugnar Faugn as Ancient Ones and all be good. Dagon as Herald and a great mechanic in town involving the attack of the goverment over the Deep Ones would be great.

I don't know if its really encesary another small card edition. After all, all of the great Ancient Ones ar represented (Nyarlathotep at DF, Shubb at Black Goat, Hastur with King in yellow). Maybe its missing Yog Sothoth, but I don't really know how to make an avatar of him (and also, Dunwich Horror kinda fill his place).

I think that more boards, or other expansions would be too much (there's no table that big). About independent expansions (Mountains of Madness, Dream-quest of Unknown Kadath) It should be an entirely differtn game, with different mechanics. After all,if it were the same, the temptation of mixing all together would be too much.

Yes that would be quite cool - I remember Cthulhu by Gaslight - that had the cover with the branches reaching through a wrought iron fence for an English gent, if I recall correctly.

You know what would be good for innsmouth. A Mechanic whereby you have to do something to SPEED UP an occurance. Gathering proof of the deepone taint for example to hasten the government assault.

This could  be associated with a BGoTW style corruption of the investigater, and have a bad effect if they fail to set the government on those dirty fish loving hybrids...

ColtsFan76 said:

What I heard from various sources close to FFG during summer conventions over the past two years (pretty much right after the announcement that Kingsport, not Innsmouth was coming out) was that Innsmouth was being put off until after Kingsport for several reasons:

1. They wanted to lay some of the rules groundwork in Kingsport- this wasn't elaborated on, but I'm thinking aquatic movement was one of those rules they wanted to establish ahead of time (not that aquatic movement happens all that often in games I've played.) Maybe they also wanted to see how other mechanics were received before constituting things for Innsmouth Horror. After all, Innsmouth is THE Big Box Expansion everyone is longing for. Kingsport, not being as well-known, could be a sort of testing ground, as well as a fine big box expansion in its own right.

2. This was more implied than stated, but as ColtsFan76 said, they realized that Kingsport would see better while everyone was still hungering for Innsmouth rather than after Innsmouth had come out.

I also agree that Innsmouth may be the last big box expansion, and after that,  I think we may see some mini expansions tailored to specific themes or stories, and any new releases with boards would use the same mechanics as Arkham (and maybe the base game components) but would be completely separate games.

Stromcrow said:

'Umr at-Tawil, Yog-Sothoth's avatar from "Through the gates of the Silver key" by H. P. Lovecraft (based on a smaller story by E. Hoffman Price which was originally intended as a collaboration between the two authors) would work fine for a Yog-Sothoth expansion dealing with distant dimensions. There's also Aforgomon, from Clark Ashton Smith's "The Chain of Aforgomon", a god that deals with time in particular.

Similarly, there are plenty of avatars for all of the ancient ones that are available in the main box, so any of them could be used for a small expansion box.

ISDSharpe said:

Yes it does.  I still own the book, actually. 

Someone mentioned Chaugnar Faugn earlier.  He/it has always been one of my favourite Great Old Ones, so it would be thrilling to have him in the game.

Victimizer said:

that made me smile !! you came up with those names 'off the top of your head' ? wow... and as far as i can tell you might have spelled them all correctly too . let me guess, you were a gm for a cthulhu rpg for years?

as mentioned allready, innsmouth is the only logical board to add as it is the last 'new england area' city of lovecrafts tales that doesn't have a expansion yet.

as a side note i secound the vote for Chaugnar Faugn! one of my favortie goo too.

@moekel

Aye, thirded, Chaugnar Faugn is also one of my favourites. But given the game's current trends, it seems unlikely that he'll appear.

As for cthulhoid knowledge...well, I wouldn't say that I've been gm-ing for years, because it makes it sound kinda long. I found out about the Cthulhu Mythos a scant 4 or so years ago, and have been gm-ing for about 3 and a half (Call of Cthulhu, that is, though I've participated in cthulhoid rounds of My Life with Master, Conquer the Horizon and Trail of Cthulhu; also, I will be participating in a game of Pokethulhu. Next month we're starting off on CthulhuTech. There's a slew of Cthulhu Mythos board, roleplaying and video games that I own besides those too.).

I'm more of a Cthulhu Mythos reader though, so my abillity to name mythos entities stems more from that side of my hobbies, I s'pose. Nontheless: your guess is correct.