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Star Wars: Edge of the Empire
Roleplay adventures on the fringes of the Star Wars galaxy
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And the fourth Core Rule Book will be…
by arkiva
Published on 03 February 2013 - 16:16:37
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Reply #31 | Published on 12 February 2013 - 20:50:32

Jegergryte said:

I doubt the is going to be a 4th core book. 

If the first three are successful, expect a 4th. After all, when they renewed DH/RT/DW they added BC and OW to the lineup…

They will find something to base it in.

 

Jegergryte said:

Am I the only one who appreciated the NJO books? and the Traviss books? Man there's much hate aimed and those stories. paraguas

Quite possibly. I quit reading all SW novels after the first two Jedi Academy books… ≤SHUDDER≥ For me, my personal EU is WEG rulebooks, the Thrawn trillogy, Truce at Bakura, Courtship of Princess Leia, the three Daly Han Solo books, and the 3 Lando books, and the Dark Empire 1 & 2 series. Because that's all I've read.

 

Jegergryte said:

Now, the new films are going to be exciting to watch - to quote a tweet quote by ars technica: "Worrying that Disney will ruin Star Wars is like worrying a second iceberg will dive down to hit the Titanic." - but I will still have fond memories and use the already written EU for my version of the Galaxy, and I hope FFG will do the same.

I wouldn't count on it - the locations for the adventures are invented.

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Reply #32 | Published on 12 February 2013 - 22:26:46
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aramis said:

If the first three are successful, expect a 4th. After all, when they renewed DH/RT/DW they added BC and OW to the lineup…

 

They will find something to base it in.

 

I agree.

(And despite it all, it is fun to get a 'new game' every year - rekindles the interest a bit, yknow)

And I do think it makes a lot of sense to make sure there are Episode 7 tie in products available to go with the films. I got The Force Unleashed book from WOTC because I really liked the game, and I do stuff like that all the time.

(Or maybe it doesn't - direct movie tie in video games are usually dreadful (you usually want Batman Arkham Asylum, not the The Dark Knight game), and novelisations of movies are usually dreadful, so, er…)

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My only reservation with junking the EU is I am not entirely sure what of the bits I like and dislike about Star Wars are EU.

For instance, are Wookie Life Debts (which I like) EU? How about Wookies not using their claws (which I don't like)? Stormtroopers being vaguely good at anything is probably mostly EU, and even stuff like A-Wings being really fast is probably EU.

So when we junk the EU, what exactly goes with it?

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Reply #33 | Published on 13 February 2013 - 03:01:27
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ErikB said:

So when we junk the EU, what exactly goes with it?

We only junk what we personally don't like.  If we take the stories form the Star Wars universe as legneds of old, like the king arthur and merlin myths, then we can reconcile what we believe happened to all of the other dramatisations that authors have put out.  By taking this view even the new films won't destroy the EU as it could all have happened, from a certain point of view….

 

I think that if there is a 4th core book then focusing on political intrigue and the core worlds would be the way to go, this would effectively cover the senate of the old republic and the back-stabbing of the Empire era, which would be fun. IMHO.

Everything else can be covered in sourcebooks or setting guides.

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Reply #34 | Published on 13 February 2013 - 12:23:05

ErikB said:

 

For instance, are Wookie Life Debts (which I like) EU? How about Wookies not using their claws (which I don't like)? Stormtroopers being vaguely good at anything is probably mostly EU, and even stuff like A-Wings being really fast is probably EU.

So when we junk the EU, what exactly goes with it?

 

 

Wookiee life debts and claws are not mentioned in the movie (Tim Zahn invented the wookiee claws and the reason they don't use them) so no need to keep them.

Basically anything not mentioned in the movies is fair game to be jettisoned.  Much like The Clone Wars cartoon did with Mandalore.  That said if the new films rewrite the EU then they could decide to reuse stuff already in the EU.

Maybe FFG decided to base their SW games strictly in the OT timeframe to avoid (or minimize) being trumped by the new movies in a couple years. 

On the original topic of the thread the publishing plan after the three core books may be setting material to tie into the new movies and the possible rewrite of the EU.  As WEG did 20-25 years old maybe FFG supplements could  greatly influence the direction of a new EU.

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Reply #35 | Published on 13 February 2013 - 14:21:38
I don't think the coming movies have any influence on their decision to focus on the original trilogy, but canon may be a factor. The original trilogy are the considered the highest canon, so they may have wanted to base the game on the most core information, adding to it as they see fit. Thus allowing them to cherry pick the things they want to include beyond it.

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Reply #36 | Published on 13 February 2013 - 15:49:48

Jegergryte said:

 

Am I the only one who appreciated the NJO books? and the Traviss books? Man there's much hate aimed and those stories. paraguas

You are NOT the only one who enjoys the NJO and Traviss books. The New Jedi Order was a fantastic story arc (minus the Kathy Tyers book) filled with some truly epic moments! Han beating his fist against the closed Falcon ramp, screaming for the stranded Chewbacca, as he escapes an exploding planet… Corran Horn’s battle with Shedao Shai on Ithor… Anakin’s sacrifice… Ganner Rhysode last stand (EPIC!!!)…

Dell Ray books won the Lucas Licensing contract back from Bantam/Spectra just before Ep. 1 came out, and they wanted to celebrate it in a big way. And what a great way to begin than to put the Jedi completely out of their element. The Yuuzhan Vong are such a great foil to the Jedi. They’re absent from the Force, their armor resists lightsabers, and their technology is completely alien. It’s a GM’s dream! Jedi are so OP in both film and otherwise, falling only to a Sith Lord’s light saber or an overwhelming swarm of clone troopers. It was such a treat to see the Jedi knocked down a few pegs and have to rely on their wits to survive—something the Jedi in the prequels were utterly inept at even attempting.  

NJO put Lucas’ prequels to utter shame. So pay no attention to the haters, Jegergryte. It’s actually quite amusing to see people hate on the EU when it’s the very thing they’re roleplaying in. Star Wars roleplaying IS Expanded Universe and FFG has already begun to pull from the books. Stop whining, haters. We’re all here because we love Star Wars.

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Reply #37 | Published on 13 February 2013 - 16:16:36

I have read a lot of the EU stuff and enjoyed most of it.  However, I do want an EU reboot with these new movies for several reasons. I don't want the new movies to redo EU story already out there or be constrained by the establish EU stories.  I want something fresh and new, but I don't want the timeline after RotJ advanced too much.

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