Paddosan said:

So how did you know he just didn´t install another asset (trap) over the old one to mess with you, oh wise one?

This is something I myself have done a few times. Just every now and then it can win a game to get the runner convinced that he knows something

NO. I neither misunderstand nor am twisting what you're saying. Neither does my use of partial quotes do that, especialy where it allows me to zero in on what's wrong with your arguments.

First of all, you gave that statement, that example. You said:

If you see an ICE that you can't break or that will kill you, you gotta jack out… but by doing so before it is rezzed by the Corp, you prevent them from spending credits.

There's already a recognition on your part that not jacking out will hurt the Runner or even cause him to lose- and yet you're still whining about how Snitch preventing defeat didn't get the Corp to spend cash. Killing the Runner will automatically win the game for the Corp.

There is no getting around what you posted. There is no getting around that conditions for winning and losing. There is no change of meaning involved. You're explicitly saying that Snitch falls short in your standards because it doesn't get the Corp to spend on rezzing ICE even when Snitch just saved the Runner from losing.

Second, in regards to:

I never run just for the sake of it, never test my luck on a protected server.

And:

So, you have indeed made mistakes in your guesswork that led you to encounter ICE stronger, tougher and more dangerous than you can handle? You've already shown a wrong assessment of Archer earlier.

Saturnine said:

I don't use advanceable ICE myself, so I gotta ask: how often do people use such ICE? How often do they advance it? By how much per ICE? At what point do you realize it's too much? Too little? Just right?

I'll be using Bold for quotes, since the forum has already gone nuts, better avoid any more trouble.

So how did you know he just didn´t install another asset (trap) over the old one to mess with you, oh wise one? 

This is something I myself have done a few times. Just every now and then it can win a game to get the runner convinced that he knows something

That is indeed a good play, however having played with that guy for the previous turns I had enough reasons to believe that there was an Agenda there, not a trap of some kind.
It had no advancement on it so far, so it could maybe have been Snare!, but I had enough cards to survive anyway.

Plus, I hadn't much of a choice, with him being already at 4 points, I couldn't let him take any more.

So, you have indeed made mistakes in your guesswork that led you to encounter ICE stronger, tougher and more dangerous than you can handle? You've already shown a wrong assessment of Archer earlier.

I see we value right and wrong assessments in a different way.
Furthermore, you failed to understand what I wrote. Or the order in which that happened, anyway.

1) I had to run there, as I said, since it could be the winning agenda for my opponent.
2) Thinking at which ICE would have affected me the most, I considered Archer the worst.
3) I gathered enough credits as to be able to break at least the 2 Trash subroutines on Archer.
4) I run on that server.
5) Archer is infact rezzed, and since I judged correctly, I had enough money to break two subroutines.

Not the opposite. No stumbling. No mistake.

The one assessment you consider wrong made me ultimately win the game.
In your book, probably, that's not good enough.

Snitch allows you to take chances or be more aggressive safely.

You're playing against HB. You have Corroder and Zule out. Your opponent is about to score what you're sure is a Priority Requisition. They have two ICE in front of that server. One is a revealed Ice Wall, one is hidden.

If you run it and it turns out to be Rototurret, you lose a breaker and they score a Priority Requisition, putting you in a terrible spot. If you don't run it and it is Rototurret, you avoid losing a breaker, but they are now 3 points cloers to winning. You don't run and it isn't Rototurret (say it is another Ice Wall) then you just gave them an Agenda for nothing.

Snitch allows you to avoid the worst case circumstances.

Basically, Snitch allows you to limit how much time trying to always be safe, and instead allows you to make more aggressive/riskier plays without paying the price if you're wrong.

"Snitch does not help you run smarter, on the contrary, it helps you run wilder."

This is despite the ability of Snitch to let you see through the most basic bluff in the game!

And let's get this straight: lots of cards in this game are not a necessity to begin with. That's besides the point.

It's not necessity but effectiveness and practicality that's in question here. The ability to see ahead and avoid among the worst the Corp can throw at you is highly valuable and attractive.

Just for the record, saying to someone "you certainly did not think" is just ludicrous.

For someone acting as the ultimate connoisseur, should be obvious that 8 credits are what's needed to break the trash subroutines of Archer with the most used Killer program (aka Ninja). The math is easily done: 6 creds to raise the strenght twice, 2 creds to break two subroutines.

"So I gathered credits to reach 8 and run."

And that's what I wrote, just scroll up.
What do you think I gathered exactly 8 credits for?
A hint was on the line before: "What could be the worst ICE for me? Archer."

Then again, since you claim you know what I was thinking, I guess further discussion is kinda pointless.
It also seems you're getting way too angry about this, and the discussion has been derailed enough anyway.

 

"What could be the worst ICE for me? Archer."

It's not ludicrous because that is exactly what happened as evidenced by what you said and how things turned out. Archer popping up was the next best thing to scoring that Agenda and you still don't get it.

And you're right; I am getting too angry about this. After all, I'm not the one missing out on what was a good turn of tactical fortune.