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Tourney rules - Sleeves & marking
Published on 28 February 2013 - 14:39:48
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Reply #16 | Published on 28 February 2013 - 21:57:42

The sky is green!  No I am not citing or backing this position up!

"I am wise enough to know that there are some perils from which a man must flee." - Faramir, The Two Towers

 

 

 

 

 

Reply #17 | Published on 28 February 2013 - 22:05:49
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TGO said:

This is probably the most rediculous thread I have read on these forums.  

 

I agree lol.

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Reply #18 | Published on 28 February 2013 - 23:06:24
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I'm not sure what's so absurd about this topic. I haven't played in any major tournaments before so I was just curious why card marking wasn't explicitly prohibited.

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Reply #19 | Published on 01 March 2013 - 00:27:42

sageleader said:

I'm not sure what's so absurd about this topic. I haven't played in any major tournaments before so I was just curious why card marking wasn't explicitly prohibited.

There are a great many things not defined in the rules that are clearly illegal.  You can't draw extra cards, even though the rules aren't explicit that you can't do that.  It is just common sense.  The same with card marking. The OP document can not and will not ever be able to go over every illegal situation.

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Reply #20 | Published on 01 March 2013 - 14:55:32

sageleader said:

I'm not sure what's so absurd about this topic. I haven't played in any major tournaments before so I was just curious why card marking wasn't explicitly prohibited.

 

The topic is not absurd, for me its what people are saying with no citation in the rules.  And in true internet fasion I will not give a citation either.  I will leave it to say that I believe that if you sleve your command deck in red for Sith and black for Imperial Navy you are marking your cards.  You are giving yourself the advantage of knowing beforehand whether or not you have a resource match.  So while it does not technically sleeves must be uniform, I would interpert uniformity to be in the "spirit" of the rule.

"I am wise enough to know that there are some perils from which a man must flee." - Faramir, The Two Towers

 

 

 

 

 

Reply #21 | Published on 01 March 2013 - 17:03:12
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flightmaster101 said:

 for me its what people are saying with no citation in the rules.  

 

You dont need a citation for common sense. 

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Reply #22 | Published on 01 March 2013 - 17:18:13

TGO said:

flightmaster101 said:

 

 for me its what people are saying with no citation in the rules.  

 

 

 

You dont need a citation for common sense. 

correct, but when stating or paraphrasing a rule you should cite it.

"I am wise enough to know that there are some perils from which a man must flee." - Faramir, The Two Towers

 

 

 

 

 

Reply #23 | Published on 01 March 2013 - 22:29:12

Agree with TGO and JMCB, this thread is silly, and posts like this

sageleader said:

…but nowhere does it say that card marking is illegal. It seems someone could use  matte sleeves and just write on the back of them things like "darth vader" to denote which card it is.

are the reason why.  As someone who is TOing FFG events this year and has done so in the past, all I have to point out is the "etc" at the end of the list of unsportsmanlike conduct moves, and that "The TO, at his or her sole discretion, may penalize or remove players from the tournament for unsportsmanlike conduct."
I can also say that in past events I've participated in, TOs and organizers have required opaque sleeves, so even if you don't like opaque sleeves, you might want to have 2 decks worth (1 DS, 1 LS) of them handy just in case (or be prepared to have to buy them while at the event).

The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.  -Terry Pratchett

Reply #24 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 17:54:06
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As an extension:

Would having your objective and command decks in different styles of sleeves considered marking in the unsportsmanlike sense?  Specifically, I have my objective cards in art sleeves and my command cards in clear.  This is my first attempt at competitve play and don't want to have the surprise expense on tourney day.

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Reply #25 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 18:34:13
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I do the same thing, so my answer would be no. They are two different decks that do not get shuffled together. If either deck is expired when you have to draw a card from them you lose. Sorry, I can't come up with a reason that they can not be in separate deck sleeves.

 

Reply #26 | Published on 05 March 2013 - 18:46:24

divedeeper said:

As an extension:

Would having your objective and command decks in different styles of sleeves considered marking in the unsportsmanlike sense?  Specifically, I have my objective cards in art sleeves and my command cards in clear.  This is my first attempt at competitve play and don't want to have the surprise expense on tourney day.

They are two separate decks that don't get shuffled together so no that is not marking. Marking is having cards in the same deck with different sleeves or some other manner of knowing without looking what the card (s) are.

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Reply #27 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 08:31:28
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The question was can he use different sleeves for different factions. NO that is marking your cards.

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Reply #28 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 09:29:22

cmage said:

The question was can he use different sleeves for different factions. NO that is marking your cards.

cmage wins!

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Reply #29 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 11:30:55

So what you're saying is I can't put my Sith cards in clear sleeves and my Spies and Bounty Hunters in tinfoil?  Just want to make sure…. mono

Peter Jacobson

Belle Plaine, MN

Reply #30 | Published on 06 March 2013 - 14:01:52
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Thanks Toq and R4.

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