Rogue 4 said:

Where are you getting that it has anything to do with faith in thier playtesting?  Or that what other CCGs do would apply, instead of what FFG has done with it's other LCGs?

Dude, I am not getting into this with you.

You can't understand so fine, leave it at that. I have been around many games that once their product comes out is legal for any type tournament, period. I am unfamiliar with what FFG has or does with their LCG. If you have been around playtesters and see what they intially have to work with you would know that the cards change a lot from their original concept, so by the time they are produced they should have seen any bad strategies or combos is what I meant about their playtesting.

So I mentioned that I could see it either way, make it legal now or wait. Doesn't matter to me, I just replied to the thread.

Rogue 4 said:

I understand you aren't familar with FFG which is why you made the assumption, which is why I corrected that assumption.  But what does not make sense if where you are infering from that it is some sort of thought about imbalance that is behind a policy you weren't aware of.  The cards will eventually be legal.

Rogue 4 said:

Playtesting of cards has nothing to do with when they are legal for sanctioned tournament play so I don't know you even bring that up.

If you are not familiar with FFG and the other LCGs making an assumption based on othernon FFG card games can create unnecessary confusion for those who want valid information.

No one seems to have mentioned it, so…

The reason that FFG doesn't immediately make packs legal is so everyone has time to get familiar with the new cards before a tournament.  LCGs (as opposed to CCGs) generally have an older audiance with less expendable time.  As a result, FFG believes that a pack should be out at least 3-4 weeks before a tournament; this way everyone who enters has had a chance to at least try out the cards.

looks like I was correct. Cards are legal once they are released for tournaments according to the rules out today. Kinda feel like gloating, but that is not who I am.

Rogue 4 said:

Wasn't that just gloating?

Rogue 4 said:

I don't know if I would gloat about being correct on a guess that had no logical basis in the LCG format.  I mean, if that's the kind of person you are, then that's cool, but I personally would feel like an ass if I were smug about a silly guess.

Really though, the important thing here is that we know the rules, and we know what is legal.  That makes me very happy.

Playtesting is done prior to printing while the game is in development; it has nothing to do with tournament legality dates.  Apparently the immediate legality of these sets runs counter to FFG's previous procedure for their LCGs.  It was not logical to assume immediate legality, given the information that we had.

You guessed counter to logic and happened to guess correctly; there is nothing worth gloating over.

I love you all.

I promise you, I am a fun, crazy guy that enjoys the company of fellow gamers. I wasn't honestly trying to gloat, I apologize for thinking I was.

What I meant about playtesting was, as I have been involved with the process, playtesters try to make their cards so that when they release them, they could be used immediately in tournaments without any of them being "bad" cards that could abuse the game.

I have also seen where cards are held out of tournaments atleast two to three weeks prior to any large tournaments. So I definetly see it both ways. Like you all said, I guessed and got lucky, but honestly didn't intend to appear as gloating.