Thank  you everyone for prompt response. I am loving it and bte i do agree overall that FFG do deliver great games… dont ask how much i spent on dust tactics and the total collection of tanhauser… great games deserve a purchase…

Then again this was going totally off the path as i know this is meant to be played as a paper traditional game. But they provided so much items and tokens and info that (opinion) "i think can be turned to a boardgame somewhat with a bit og game changing tweaks". These tweaks can only be decided once i really understand the game mechanics… So far invested 350 in it and plan for another 200 or so… I hate missing on anything even if that detail is innessential (sucker).

i am still trying to figure on some rules and other things but i think you all gave me a good perspective on a direction. Thanks and do support FFG if they keep making great products.

Drunken Cheers,

FFG GIVE US SOME NEWS AND SOME NEW RELEASES OR ANNOUCEMENTS FOR WFRP!!!!!

Having just purchased my Second Corebox, 2 additonal players hardback, a second players toolkit and additonal copy of both Omens of War and Lure  of Power.  (I like having an extra card of each, next up Signs and Winds )

I am hoping for some WFR 3 Love from FFG soon.

I have a group of 5 just about to start Enemy Within, however anything produced fortheline would be welcome an updated Kislev supplement if you want an easier supplement but I would love to see something NEW, ARABY,LUSTRIA, ORCS, ELVES (Although I love Yepesnopes stuff).

Pleeease FFG

Alternatively happy if you make a new rules MIDNIGHT SETTING with same mechanics (already got enough dice)

ok, i bought everything for 3rd edition…actually every books and supplements even if i'm not a huge fan of the system. But adventures are top notch (mostly) and i really like tons of ideas of this edition. AND i'm a WH fan (got some books first edition, every book from the 2d edition) with ED it's probably my favorite setting. And as a fan, i start to feel disappointed by the way FFG handle the situation. The silence around this edition start to be really annoying. 

FFG let us know what is your intention, or even knowing the absence of intention, rather that this uncertainity.

One thing I find VERY frustrating is the amount of books released for Warhammer 40K. Warhammer 40K was always more popular than Warhammer Fantasy but It doesn't explain that FFG is developping much more products for 40K. Warhammer Fantasy was firmly established as a RPG before 40K and it needs to conquer again its rightful place. I begin to wonder if Warhammer 3 would have sold as well as Warhammer 40K RPG if FFG would have stuck to the old system… I have been playing to Warhammer since 1990 and a lot of my friends  turned to 40K (or kept playing to the second edition) when the third edition was released. Personally, I bought everything for this 3rd edition, hoping that the game will enter into a new era but as time goes on, I would love to see a 4rth edition and several books exactly like the 40K  RPG universe. I think this would make a lot of Warhammer players go back to the Fantasy Universe and buy 40K and Fantasy products. 

Hauer Glaeken said:

The explanation is simple: demand. FFG release more books for the 40k lines because there is more demand for them.

macd21 said:

There is also the point that the 40K line is totally new  (as an RPG). No books with background for the game where ever published. All you could find in the stores containing some background where the army books or other rule books for parallel games like Space Hulk, well Warhammer 40K novels as well. In that sense, Warhammer 3 had a much difficult job since it was not a new product. It comes after two successful editions of the game with huge amounts of backgrounds. With this panorama FFG had in front a difficult job. While they succeed in creating a new fresh system, name the qustom narrative dice, they fail miserably somewhere else.

In my opinion they did a bad job by splitting the product the way they did. In my opinion the Core box should contain all rules (e.g. rules find in signs of faith, winds of magic, lure of power and Omens of war). By putting all the "already existing material" gods, collage of magic…in the core box, they would have had ahead new and vrigin ground to conquer where other editions have not been before. Elves, Tilea, Estalia, Arabia… Other editions of the game have been very Empire centered. In this one, since the PC are so damn heroic (sorry I had to say it), it was a great oportunitu to expand a bit the boundaries of the setting. This for sure would have catched the attention of 1st and 2nd edition fans.

Additionally, FFG did some other bad jobs. Supplements like the Black fire pass should have contained more Inventions and more Runes; it seems that the guys at FFG are lazy at doing their job, let each fan finish the job as he/she sees it suit. The creature guide has been also a big inflection point for me, I haven't seem such a poor product for an RPG in ages.

Cheers,

Yepes

Yepesnopes said:

There's a reason why that virgin territory wasn't explored much in earlier editions. It's niche. Ulthuan, Tilea, Estalia, Arabia - these are fringe areas that are of less interest to the fanbase than the core of the setting, the Empire. They weren't dealt with before because there wasn't enough demand.

Are there people interested in those areas? Certainly. But not enough to justify making any of them the core of your game.

Not enough demand? Did they a market study to pull out a 3rd edition? There was demand for that? How do they scan the market?

Come on!

macd21 said:

I agree but offer creates demand. Warhammer Fantasy RPG is overshadowed by 40K because a lot of players turned their back to the RPG because all these cards and tokens are not so "gamer friendly" which is a shame because the scenarios and background are top notch in the the third edition. May be It's time to move forward and to stick to the 40K system and see what happens. I am pretty sure that it will boost the sells. 

There are a lot of because in my previous sentence, forgive me. ^^ And concerning Ulthuan, Tilea and so on… Well, if the fluff and the background are great to read, theses areas will become popular. For Sigmar's sake, The High Elves are widely popular on tabletops, on Warhammer Online (actually were…) and I don't see why they would not interest RPG gamers. 

Yepesnopes said:

They knew how much demand there was for continued 2nd edition products… which wasn't much. So they tried something new. They scan the market by looking at sales figures and feedback from distributors and retailers.

Hauer Glaeken said:

Sure, that may have been a factor. Alternatively the WF RPG is overshadowed by the 40k games because 40k is simply the more popular setting.

Hauer Glaeken said:

Sure, they'll interest RPG gamers. Yes, they're relatively popular. And there's almost certainly enough interest to justify a supplement for the Elves (less so for Tilea etc). But moreso than the Empire? Had they released Ulthuan as the 'starting' setting I think you would have more complaints from players of older editions than there were over the cards.

macd21 said:

I guess that the guy /team that does the market surveillance for the Warhammer line is the same that has decided that this line does not need to release more dice packs.

I know that you have worked for them, and probably you know more about the internal kitchen in FFG than I do. Nontheless, as a customer and long time fan of the warhammer fantasy line I firmly belive that they have followed a poor strategy with this line.

Cheers,

Yepes

Yepesnopes said:

Do you really think they believe that "this line does not need to release more dice packs"? They would love to release more dice packs, have dice packs available in every game store, from Amazon etc. But whether or not they produce more dice packs isn't really up to them, it's up to the distributors. There isn't enough demand at present for them to justify another run of the dice.

Mad I think you're wrong there. One of the main issues that FFG had a the beginning of the 3rd ed run was that the dice were of a very poor quality and so new ones were printed and added to some of the core boxes. Now if FFG is swapping printers for the dice this could very easily be a problem because of the mould, it would cost more to make than all of the dice printed in it afterwards put together and a fight over ownership with the printers could be quite nasty.

Now I'm not saying that it's like this, I'm not saying that I have information from inside FFG or anything, I'm just saying that it's very possible and and can we please put this topic to bed now, it's doing more harm than good.